one of these five will win the 2017 Kentucky Derby

You have Mo Town listed twice.

petrov, doesn't look like it.
gormley, something about his last performance just irked me.

haven't seen B or D run, but hasn't Mastery started pretty late for a Derby campaign?

I like McCracken but his connections are avoiding Classic Empire in the Holy Bull and instead are running next week at Tampa.

this list will not change at all, if by some chance all of these racehorses misfire then I was wrong. I see in here 2+2 doesn't equal 4 with a few people.

Mastery looked good in his last and El Areeb looked good in the Withers yesterday.

klimt hasn't worked sine dec - is there an injury?

Mc Cracken is now my leading three year old.....

you cant help yourself can you? a person would think you would get tired of posting your opinions when they are always wrong.
not that I am picking McCracken, because I'm not, but its hilarious to watch you post shit that has no truth to it. the two best fields assembled yet in the preps this year were in the tampa bay race and in the holy bull. I saw the horse you just picked on the other site. I suppose he has faced better?

the only thing you need to ask me is how much of an idiot do I think you are.

would agree with just about everything you said here. I'm not quite sold on one liner just yet, but I may be wrong. petrov was my 2nd pick in the race and ran well. he is definitely improving. uncontested wants no part of 2 turns against top competition. he was lucky to catch a sloppy, wet/fast track in his previous where speed dominated that day. he was way overbet.

I still haven't seen a lot of the horses from last year yet, including mastery, and as I am writing this I am assuming classic empire will not be on the derby trail much longer. if he is he definitely is still a contender. but of the ones I have seen so far this year either in the RTTC races or in doing research for those races, these are the ones who have caught my eye and impressed me the most and are the best value. my opinions definitely differ from most of the "experts" thankfully.

6) 125/1? before last weekends race- petrov- another improving with racing and I like this horses running style. he seems to have the ability to either sit close, rate midpack, or even send to the lead if no one wants it I think. don't know how much overall talent he has, had no excuse when beaten by one liner in last, and would like to see a different trainer, but the price is right.
5) 125/1? before last weekends race- one liner- surprised me how good he looked in last weekends race. he really looked good in his first route try and even though he was green late he finished strong and was clearly best that day. still, its pletcher so his leg may fall off before he even gets to the derby. I have no idea what his odds are now though.
4) 75/1- wild shot- ran BTL in that tampa bay race. ke was 3-4 wide all the way and was still right in it until late when he tired. but I don't think it was from the distance, just the rough trip. hes got good tactical speed, seems to be getting a little better with each start, and hasn't ducked anyone, having faced good fields in all 3 starts this year. he may not have been winning the battles so far, but that doesn't mean he wont win the war when its all over. definitely worth plying at those odds.
3) 6/1- mccraken- yes he is the chalk and probably should be at this point. but 6/1 is an unplayable number when he still has to make 2 more starts before they even get to the derby. he has been impressive and beaten good fields in his races. but with his running style trouble could be waiting just around the corner for him in every start. he did win against the bias last time though and has to be on any reasonably bright persons list.
2) 25/1- gunnerva- chased a lone-f winner in last and had trouble to boot, but never quit and rerallied outside for 2nd. he probably wasn't going to beat the winner that day anyway because of the pace situation but he surely would have been closer. he has an experience edge over many of these but should be fresh as that was his first start after a nice little break. distance shouldn't be a problem, but hos running stle is just like mccraken's so there is always the possibility of traffic problems. I like him but the odds are bodering on too low for me to play.

and the #1 contender at this point is ..........................

1) 40/1- el areeb - should show the peanut gallery here that once again, I am not biased against the east coast.......just shitty horses and racing which is usually what they provide. anyway, he has beaten nothing, as usual when you run in the ny preps, and based on recent yearz would probably be a dud in the derby. BUT this one looks different to me. you will never find a horse with better derby breeding then this guy. hes also getting better with every start and looks very professional doing it. I don't know much about the trainer though. I also really liked that last race. the final time doesn't look great on paper but remember it was Aqueduct. plus he came home strong after having to close into a very slow pace. he just looks like the horse to me right now. lets home he doesn't break down before they can get him out of aqueduct and to a real track.