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Post by Jon on Apr 25, 2014 17:35:03 GMT -5
LOL The BC should go back to the ORIGINAL concept - 1 Day, 7 Spectacular (their word) Races and DIFFERENT locations throughout the country. May the current "BC" (not a world championship by any means) go away sooner rather than later!
Breeders' Cup eliminates BC Marathon
By Matt Hegarty
DRF
The 2014 Breeders’ Cup will not include the Marathon, run every year at the two-day event since 2008, the organization announced late Friday.
Run at 1 3/4 miles with a purse of $500,000, the Marathon was added to the Breeders’ Cup program as a way to encourage the breeding and running of distance horses, in an era in which North American breeders have been criticized for focusing on speed. The race has often been filled with horses that are not among the top tier of horses in the country but who are long-distance specialists.
“It is our mission to conduct a racing program with competition at its highest level,” said Craig Fravel, the chief executive of the Breeders’ Cup, in a statement. “While we truly appreciate the participation of owners and trainers in the Marathon, the conditions of the race have not developed into a competition that we believe reaches the standard set by the remaining races [in the Breeders’ Cup’s year-end event].”
The Marathon, which usually kicked off the Friday card, is the second race to be discontinued by Breeders’ Cup since it expanded to 15 races in 2011. Last year, the organization dropped the Juvenile Sprint from the lineup after only two runnings.
Also on Friday, the Breeders’ Cup said that it will lower the foal nomination fee to $400 if owners nominate by Oct. 15 of their weanling year. Since 2008, the Breeders’ Cup has allowed for $400 foal nominations if the payment was made by Aug. 1. The organization will also begin to pay out stallion and nominator awards through fourth place beginning with this year’s event. The awards were previously paid out through third.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 18:52:31 GMT -5
One down, about nine more to go!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 19:02:32 GMT -5
dropping this one was wise. as far as the rest of your little cry baby rant jon............ WAH WAH WAH!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 19:08:12 GMT -5
MAYBE WE SHOULD GO BACK TO WHITE RESTROOMS ONLY AND PROHIBITION TOO?
TIMES CHANGE. THINGS CHANGE. GET USED TO IT AND STOP BEING A JEALOUS HATER JUST BECAUSE CA. STILL PUTS ON THE BEST SHOW!! THEY ARE STILL ALL FULL FIELDS, WHICH IS A LOT MORE THEN CAN BE SAID FOR MOST GRADE 1 RACES AROUND THE COUNTRY THE REST OF THE YEAR.
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Post by Jon on Apr 26, 2014 1:56:31 GMT -5
That's your opinion Wiz - sure not a fact LOL Actually, "the show" was god awful! That's reflected in the ratings. No WAH-ING - Never thought the Marathon was much of a race as it didn't draw the Euros other than 3rd stringers. Of course there are full fields with the $ but 50% don't belong in them. But at least CA can have one day with full fields
"Jealous Hater" LMAO Nope - A racing fan. World Championships my azz LOL
Please - Enjoy - The CA Cup
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 2:08:54 GMT -5
Of course there are full fields with the $ but 50% don't belong in them.
but yet Saratoga cant draw more then 5 or 6 horses for their bloated purse races? I guess it isn't just the money, now is it?
and the ratings bs gets so tiresome, because you don't know what your talking about. your comparing numbers from different decades and eras and trying to make a case that no one is watching which is untrue. people aren't watching on tv anymore because they are all watching on the internet and the betting sites where they are making their bets from home. its an inconclusive comparison and argument. the fact is the handle goes up consistently every year. who do you think is betting that money? plus who would you rather watch? nbc's coverage with the jackoffs they employ or the track feeds where you can get odds and exacta prices whenever you want them? internet players and watchers are hundreds of times more prevalent now a days then they were when the numbers you are making comparisons to were formulated.
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Post by Jon on Apr 26, 2014 2:14:57 GMT -5
Total untruth Wiz. Some divisions have small fields everywhere.
Man - again you're WAH-ING about bloated purses? Now, now don't be a "jealous hater"LOL
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 2:20:05 GMT -5
go back and look jon. how many grade 1 races on bc days had less then 8 horses? how many grade 1 races during saratogas meet had less then 8 horses?
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Post by Jon on Apr 26, 2014 2:30:05 GMT -5
That's a question for George. Am going back to bed
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 2:34:30 GMT -5
that's what I thought. run off to bed now avoid the facts. all the hating and arguments that you guys want to throw out there don't hold water if you really think about it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 8:46:33 GMT -5
Lots of stuff here to catch up on, but to start, wiz, the fact is that most of the top races on both coasts have had short fields for 20 years or more. For example, how many horses were in last weekend's big race at Santa Anita?
Even races like the Preakness and Belmont Stakes have had short fields many years. The only "big" race that consistently has a full field every year is the Kentucky Derby, and that's because there are a bunch of rich egomaniacs who want to see their horses cross the finish line (the FIRST time) in contention so they can brag to their boardroom buddies.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 8:51:30 GMT -5
One other thing, any race that has a full field, no matter what level it is or where it's run, is going to have a bunch of "3rd stringers" and horses that don't belong in it. That's the nature of the game. Anyone ever hear of a racing secretary going around and cajoling trainers to enter their horses to "fill" a race?
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Post by byanose13 on Apr 26, 2014 8:54:07 GMT -5
Good they need to drop more races so they can go back to a 1 day event or maybe they can use that money to have a $2million BC Ca bred claiming Championship race to go along with the other garbage races they run to make it a 2 day event.
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Post by Evelyn on Apr 26, 2014 13:15:43 GMT -5
Well said George and Josh! Love the 2M claiming race idea!Based on the ratings, the BC was far more successful when in it's original format. Please remember, the BC is NOT a non-profit. It's a corporation that supposedly contributes a portion of proceeds to charity but doesn't disclose those contributions. Their goal is not helping racing, it's to make a profit. That wasn't the original intent. Because Europe now has several similar Championship days, it's really false advertising to call the BC "World Championships".
Wiz - It was 3:30 in the morning!! I know because he woke me up! Besides, you made the statement. It's up to you to back it up. Why do I think if the BC was in NY 3 years in a row, you'd do a 180? LOL
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 15:26:50 GMT -5
George, I understand both coasts, and everywhere In between have had short fields even in grade 1's. that's my point. the breeders cup may card 14 races, but they are still all full fields, and all people do is bitch about it. would you rather be playing a 6 horse field of 12,500 claimers from Suffolk? or a 6 horse stakes from anywhere else? people just automatically start bitching because it isn't the exact same way and format it was 30 years ago. that doesn't mean it is worse just because it is different.
I would do a 180 if it were in new York. because it should never be held there. however if it were held elsewhere I would have no problem with it. I DONT CARE if it is in ca. or not. that isn't what makes it a great day of racing, whether its in my backyard or not. your the ones bitching about the location every time it comes up, and trying to say the shitty five and six horse fields in new York are better then the bc races. wow!!
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Post by Evelyn on Apr 26, 2014 15:58:15 GMT -5
Hmmm Last year's Distaff? Full field? Don't think so LOL
Of course it should be held in NY but NY hasn't been stupid enough to pay the ridiculous price.
FTR Wiz - IMO No one does more "hating" than you. I never thought of it that way - just your opinions - but since you want to label other opinions as "hate", well then, the word also applies to you - as per you!
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Post by Jon on Apr 26, 2014 17:57:19 GMT -5
Wiz "but yet Saratoga cant draw more then 5 or 6 horses for their bloated purse races? I guess it isn't just the money, now is it?"
Am just sayin'.....
SA Today
$100K Fran's Valentine 4 runners
$125K Tiznow 5 runners
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 19:18:23 GMT -5
small fields- yes
bloated purses?- definitely not.
once again, that the point. if your going to give the big money away, and still cant get any horses, what does that say for your racing?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 19:21:05 GMT -5
Hmmm Last year's Distaff? Full field? Don't think so LOL Of course it should be held in NY but NY hasn't been stupid enough to pay the ridiculous price. FTR Wiz - IMO No one does more "hating" than you. I never thought of it that way - just your opinions - but since you want to label other opinions as "hate", well then, the word also applies to you - as per you! ok ev. so 1 out of 14 races? now caompare that like I said to all the grade 1's held at Saratoga. where is your response to that? the only ones paying a ridiculous price for having it in ny would be the fans for having to suffer through it. |
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Post by mackdaddy on Apr 26, 2014 21:19:09 GMT -5
It was a meaningless race. Only drama ever to come out of it was Borel wanting to beat Castellano's ass a few years ago
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