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Post by hesnotmypres on Feb 24, 2014 11:24:42 GMT -5
As soon as I make some calls, I'll post the other names.
@drfgrening: Ten entered in Gotham. Surfing U S A was not among Pletcher trio. Monopolize was along with Harpoon and Master Lightning.
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Post by hesnotmypres on Feb 24, 2014 11:26:37 GMT -5
Here are the probables:
@drfgrening: Gotham probs: Deceived, Extrasexyhippzster, Fin. Mogul, Harpoon, In Trouble, Master Lightning, Noble Cornerstone, Samraat, Surfing USA, Sigh
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Post by teenagewildlife on Feb 24, 2014 11:30:54 GMT -5
Thx Pres!!
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Post by hesnotmypres on Feb 24, 2014 11:58:58 GMT -5
Any time Teenagewildlife
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 12:32:31 GMT -5
From the Blood Horse: Pair of Gotham Probables Drill at BelmontGotham Stakes (gr. III) hopefuls Deceived and Master Lightning took to the Belmont Park training track Feb. 23 in tune-ups for the upcoming race at Aqueduct Racetrack. Trainer Leah Gyarmati sent out Treadway Racing Stable's Deceived to work over the Belmont training track. The New York-bred son of Broken Vow breezed six furlongs in company with grade I winner Sweet Reason. Both were clocked in 1:16.10. Deceived is to make his first start March 1 against open company in the $500,000 Gotham, a 1 1/16-mile race that is final local prep for the Wood Memorial Stakes (gr. I) April 5. Because of inclement weather in New York, Gyarmati said she put a lot of thought into her decision to have Deceived breeze six furlongs six days before the Gotham. "It's hard when you're not able to train every day to jump up and do things," said Gyarmati. "You don't want to go from jogging in the barn for four days to breezing a mile, so you kind of have got to compromise, but he's good and fit and has been running." In his past three races, all at Aqueduct, Deceived broke his maiden by 7 1/2 lengths Dec. 7, finished third 11 days later in the Damon Runyon Stakes, and won an entry-level optional claimer by 8 1/4 lengths Jan. 31. Alan Cook's Master Lightning, a son of Pulpit and one of three Todd Pletcher-trained colts under consideration for the Gotham, breezed four furlongs in :49.55. Master Lightning won an optional claiming race in December at Aqueduct to cap his juvenile campaign. He began the new year finishing seventh in the Jerome Stakes (gr. III) Jan. 4 at Aqueduct and then ran fourth in the Miracle Wood Stakes Jan. 25 at Laurel Park. "(Master Lightning) was in hand and galloped out very strongly and looked very well," reported Byron Hughes, assistant to Pletcher. "His coat is shining and looks great." Pletcher's maiden winner Surfing U S A, a Roman Ruler colt campaigned by Stonestreet Stables and George Bolton, also is possible for the Gotham, as is close Sam F. Davis Stakes (gr. III) runner-up Harpoon, a Tapit colt owned by Let's Go Stable. Both currently are training at Palm Meadows in Florida. Source: BloodHorse.com: www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/83496/pair-of-gotham-probables-drill-at-belmont#ixzz2uGI1uGLr |
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Post by teenagewildlife on Feb 24, 2014 12:34:58 GMT -5
any guesses on the ML odds for samraat? others??
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 15:52:32 GMT -5
now I have a legitimate question here and would like everyones opinion on it.
if you owned uncle sigh, where would you rather be running in your next start? for 500k against this field that includes one horse who barely beat you last out, and eight others headed by a maiden winner? or for 300k againsta feld that is likely to include Bayern, chitu, midnight hawk, and possibly candy boy, among others?
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Post by byanose13 on Feb 24, 2014 16:00:40 GMT -5
The path of least resistance(and 500K).
I do think that Harpoon might be getting it together.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 16:01:38 GMT -5
exactly nose.
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Post by cait on Feb 24, 2014 17:50:25 GMT -5
now I have a legitimate question here and would like everyones opinion on it. if you owned uncle sigh, where would you rather be running in your next start? for 500k against this field that includes one horse who barely beat you last out, and eight others headed by a maiden winner? or for 300k againsta feld that is likely to include Bayern, chitu, midnight hawk, and possibly candy boy, among others? am quoting you dear with a small twist - "do they still race in cali?"  uncle sigh would be more competitive in the 300K field but would earn less $ so sure, he stays at home and runs for place or show btw - always pay attention to you as you know but sorry, don't see bayern or hawk being derby possibilities - could make more of a case for chitu and even better case for candy boy |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 18:05:02 GMT -5
now I have a legitimate question here and would like everyones opinion on it. if you owned uncle sigh, where would you rather be running in your next start? for 500k against this field that includes one horse who barely beat you last out, and eight others headed by a maiden winner? or for 300k againsta feld that is likely to include Bayern, chitu, midnight hawk, and possibly candy boy, among others? am quoting you dear with a small twist - "do they still race in cali?" uncle sigh would be more competitive in the 300K field but would earn less $ so sure, he stays at home and runs for place or show btw - always pay attention to you as you know but sorry, don't see bayern or hawk being derby possibilities - could make more of a case for chitu and even better case for candy boy lolololol, for your sake cait, I am glad you don't play for a living. if you think the horses in new York right now are better then ca. you've lost your mind. samraat and uncle sigh are the only horses who have competed in their 3 yr. old stakes races so far who can even stand up. outside of surfing usa, who is nothing more then a maiden winner and distant 2nd in an alw. race to an overhyped top billing, ive never even heard of the others. keep picking with your heart instead of your head. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 18:18:42 GMT -5
now I have a legitimate question here and would like everyones opinion on it. if you owned uncle sigh, where would you rather be running in your next start? for 500k against this field that includes one horse who barely beat you last out, and eight others headed by a maiden winner? or for 300k againsta feld that is likely to include Bayern, chitu, midnight hawk, and possibly candy boy, among others? am quoting you dear with a small twist - "do they still race in cali?" uncle sigh would be more competitive in the 300K field but would earn less $ so sure, he stays at home and runs for place or show btw - always pay attention to you as you know but sorry, don't see bayern or hawk being derby possibilities - could make more of a case for chitu and even better case for candy boy cait and wiz, a very legitimate question. I was going to say exactly what cait said - the place share of the Gotham purse would be $100K, the winner's share of the $300K San Felipe is $180K. So if I had a horse that I thought would have a better chance of finishing second for $100K than winning for $180K, unless I was interested in the win photograph and a trophy, I'd stay in New York for the Gotham. On top of that is the expense and travails of two cross-country flights in order to run in the San Felipe. Ask the connections for Bond Holder. At this time of year lots of Triple Crown "contenders" are just maiden winners, it's just the way things are. As a matter of fact, in the Risen Star of the 16 horses entered nine were just maiden winners* and one was still a maiden (!) *As for Bond Holder, who unfortunately was scratched, although he has won only one race, he wasn't a maiden winner. His first win was in a California Grade 1 race (had to throw that one in, sorry!) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 18:59:50 GMT -5
George that was my point to begin with. he should stay in new York. there is more money and easier competition to beat to get it. this was in respone to a post ev posted last week saying she thought the connections of uncle sigh were considering shipping him to ca. and I said that would be crazy.
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Post by hesnotmypres on Feb 24, 2014 19:00:24 GMT -5
Once again a certain respondent takes a "veiled" shot at California racing. Why can't people just stay on topic without getting in a punch or jab constantly. It's getting so GD predictable. am quoting you dear with a small twist - "do they still race in cali?" uncle sigh would be more competitive in the 300K field but would earn less $ so sure, he stays at home and runs for place or show btw - always pay attention to you as you know but sorry, don't see bayern or hawk being derby possibilities - could make more of a case for chitu and even better case for candy boy cait and wiz, a very legitimate question. I was going to say exactly what cait said - the place share of the Gotham purse would be $100K, the winner's share of the $300K San Felipe is $180K. So if I had a horse that I thought would have a better chance of finishing second for $100K than winning for $180K, unless I was interested in the win photograph and a trophy, I'd stay in New York for the Gotham. On top of that is the expense and travails of two cross-country flights in order to run in the San Felipe. Ask the connections for Bond Holder. At this time of year lots of Triple Crown "contenders" are just maiden winners, it's just the way things are. As a matter of fact, in the Risen Star of the 16 horses entered nine were just maiden winners* and one was still a maiden (!) *As for Bond Holder, who unfortunately was scratched, although he has won only one race, he wasn't a maiden winner. His first win was in a California Grade 1 race (had to throw that one in, sorry!) |
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Post by hesnotmypres on Feb 24, 2014 19:01:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 19:53:13 GMT -5
Everyone knows what you were referring to. Even the staunchest defender of California racing didn't appear to be offended by an obvious joke. But it was posted by me so of course you had to take offense and go on the attack once again. Why don't you grow the F up? |
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Post by lt1 on Feb 24, 2014 20:29:44 GMT -5
Alan why was did you think you needed to take a shot a Cali races in a NY thread. Some people might consider that baiting. Kindly leave the jokes to comedians.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2014 22:12:32 GMT -5
Huh?
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Post by canterburykid on Feb 25, 2014 8:25:09 GMT -5
Uncle Sigh working @ Belmont 1/119 in last, while Withers winner Samraat @ Palm Meadows. Loving the rematch of the Withers win /place horses competing in what looks like a less than spectacular field ( Pletch leaving "A" horses in the barn). Ground rail trip w/ Nakitani while carrying light weight leave the UNCLE saying pay backs are a bitch in a thriller |
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Post by hesnotmypres on Feb 25, 2014 8:40:36 GMT -5
Thanks for your insight Canterburykid. I'll be posting the Post Positions after the draw on Weds.
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uncle sigh would be more competitive in the 300K field but would earn less $ so sure, he stays at home and runs for place or show