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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 13:18:26 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 13:23:41 GMT -5
I HAVE TO SAY IM TORN HERE. ON THE ONE HAND, GUILLOT IS AN IDIOT, JUST LIKE HIS LOUD MOUTHED SELF PROMOTING BUDDY NICK HINES. THE GUY IS BARELY LITERATE. I WOULDNT PUT IT PAST HIM TO JUST MAKE UP A STORY TO GET IN THE NEWS AND GET HIS HORSE AND HIMSELF SOME PUBLICITY GOING INTO THE BREEDERS CUP.
BUT HAVING SAUD THAT, I DID WATCH THE RACE 5 TIMES JUST NOW, AND RIGHT AROUND THE 1/16TH POLE THE JOCK DOES START TO SWITCH HANDS WITH THE WHIP IT LOOKS LIKE BUT NEVER DOES AND NEVER HITS THE HORSE AGAIN AFTER. WHY THE WASTED MOTION IF HE WASNT SWITHCING SOMETHING ELSE IN HIS HANDS? I DIDNT SEE ANYTHING AFTER THE RACE, BUT I DID SEE THAT. I DONT KNOW WHAT TO SAY OTHER THEN............... ITS LUKAS. TAKE HIM DOWN!!!!!!!
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Post by mackdaddy on Aug 31, 2013 14:39:23 GMT -5
Rantards. Please. Guillot took credit when Champagne d Oro won a grade 1 at 40-1 on Belmont day. All the while he was Iin California and Rich Baltas did all the work. Guilliot couldn't train a 2 year old to pottie train. Mike Moreno must have a serious case if Alzheimers to let this jackass train his horses. I actually like whitey more than him so that's saying a lot
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Post by Evelyn on Aug 31, 2013 15:33:18 GMT -5
It's LUKAS. LEAVE HIM UP! (For Wiz - )
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 15:59:41 GMT -5
Remember the fuss when Jose Santos presumably was using a battery in the Kentucky Derby when Funny won? Who (other than Billy Patin, that is) would be stupid enough to do something like that in a huge race that everyone is watching?
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Post by cait on Aug 31, 2013 16:03:42 GMT -5
guillot wanmts the spotlight - he needs the publicity! lousy trainer
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Post by Challedon on Aug 31, 2013 16:27:19 GMT -5
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Post by Evelyn on Aug 31, 2013 16:57:03 GMT -5
Chall - It's blurry! Is he switching something between hands?
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Post by Challedon on Aug 31, 2013 16:58:31 GMT -5
something looks fishy
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Post by Evelyn on Aug 31, 2013 17:07:36 GMT -5
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Post by lt1 on Aug 31, 2013 20:37:02 GMT -5
Based on what I saw unless they have more or can blow this up for a better view this is going nowhere. He's pumping the horse with both hands for at least the last 70 yds so where does he jolt the horse. Seems it would be hard to jolt the horse,hide the object, and pump at the same time while still controlling the animal at the rate of speed they are going. Again unless there's more at best this video is inconclusive.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 20:37:18 GMT -5
To me it looks to me he does something with his right hand to his left hand just past the finish line. I've now watched it 15 times..
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Post by racinggal on Aug 31, 2013 23:25:53 GMT -5
I didn't see anything. Can a young jockey be that adept?
Two things from the article that struck me as relevant:
"Guillot is known to be a character who says outlandish things. He made a voodoo doll of Todd Pletcher"
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"Coincidentally, the stewards on Saturday fined Guillot $500 for using a mechanical massage blanket 24 hours out from a race, necessitating the scratch of Willyconker from Saturday’s Grade 2 Bernard Baruch Handicap."
Whatever happens, I'm not returning my winnings LOL
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 0:33:23 GMT -5
GUILLOT IS AN IDIOT THATS FOR SURE
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Post by Jon on Sept 1, 2013 0:38:28 GMT -5
Bet I know who's making a Wiz voodoo doll ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 0:45:12 GMT -5
HE BE TRIPPIN!!
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Post by lt1 on Sept 1, 2013 6:12:09 GMT -5
Let's remember folks there are criminal charges involved if this were to be true so it's going to take a lot more then this video to make a case.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 7:57:59 GMT -5
I just watched it 5 more times, he definetly does something with his right to left hand just at the wire...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 8:04:19 GMT -5
I don't know how to describe it but jockeys not only hold the reins, but they roll up a secition and hold it in their hand. Where it looks like he might be holding something other than the whip probably is a rolled up section of the rein.
I really don't don't think any jockey would be stupid enough to do something like that in a race as big as the Travers.
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Post by Challedon on Sept 1, 2013 9:42:33 GMT -5
he was really agressive with the left-handed stick past the 1/4 pole, then gives a "hand-ride" to the wire to get up and win the biggest race of his career
the horse was lugging in when he went to the left-handed stick
kind of curious to me who knows?
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