qhwizard
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aqueduct sucks, belmont sucks, saratoga sucks, and everything in MD. sucks. wespecially timonium!!
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Post by qhwizard on Sept 30, 2017 19:25:35 GMT -5
first three straight classics and probably a 4th. then the 1st tc winner in almost 40 years. and now look at the year he is having. he literally could enter 6 or 7 horses in the classic if he wanted to and other then gun runner they would all be the favorites in order. I mean he just took a hunk of shit new York plodder in mubtahij and won a grade 1 with him!! hes now won either 6 or 7 grade 1's in the handicap division with different horses in the same year!!
please no personal vendettas or jealousy provoked replies. we all know the haters will come out though.
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Post by Evelyn on Oct 1, 2017 10:29:56 GMT -5
Best to not bite
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george
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Post by george on Oct 1, 2017 16:37:57 GMT -5
I'll bite. Remember, it was a CALIFORNIA "Grade 1" that Mubtahij won, which is probably only halfway between a Grade 1 and Grade 2. Also, that wasn't much of a field yesterday once Dortmund (who might not be anything anymore anyway) was scratched. Mubtahij had almost 3X the earnings of any other horse and 45% of the earnings of the entire field. Next, what does it say when a horse can't win in NY but wins it's first outing in California? Now, as far as the Classics are concerned, maybe when the Breeders Cup Ltd. goes back to the original concept that John Nerud devised and rotates the location to various parts of the country we might see more interest in it from those parts of the country and see other trainers win. Not tough winning at your home base over and over again (I know, two years ago it was at Keeneland) But counting this year, seven of the last ten have been / will be held within 100 miles of each other and thousands of miles from any other major race track. That is not what Nerud envisioned 35 years ago. Finally, I think the jury might be out on Arrogate. I hope there's nothing wrong with him, I like the way he won the Travers and easily handled California Chrome at Gulfstream in that fiasco of a race (which they're probably going to cancel next year), but other than his 7 month spurt he really hasn't done much since then or, for that matter before then. I know he won three in a row going into the Travers, but those three were very weak races (MSW and two Optional Claimers) against at total of 10 horses (fields of 5, 5, and THREE!!) He hasn't looked very good in his last two. Did I chomp down enough of the bait?
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