qhwizard
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aqueduct sucks, belmont sucks, saratoga sucks, and everything in MD. sucks. wespecially timonium!!
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Post by qhwizard on Aug 19, 2017 20:02:31 GMT -5
I think its possible. I think he is perfectly sound after watching this race but clearly does not handle the track at del mar as well as others. baffert could give him a freshening and point towards the Pegasus and Dubai race again next year before retiring him and still have 3 of the 4 top favorites in the classic anyway. collected would either be the favorite or second favorite to gun runner at this point, plus he has cupid and someone else who I cant remember right now in his barn as well who would be top contenders. arrogate damn near won this race today on heart and grit alone but you can tell by watching him he just doesn't like the track.
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Nostradamus
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man man your time is sand, I am the eyes of Nostradamus all your ways are known to me.
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Post by Nostradamus on Aug 19, 2017 20:11:31 GMT -5
Hindsight is 20/20. Are you redboarding again Mr. Doom and Gloom 148 IQ? I could have well said the same thing now that the race is over. I told you to bet Collected. Any horse that ran such a bad race in his last race like Arrogate was suspect, and Collected beat Accelerate by 14 in last race so it was a no brainer. How much you won on that? Did I scare you off the horse. lol.;
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qhwizard
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aqueduct sucks, belmont sucks, saratoga sucks, and everything in MD. sucks. wespecially timonium!!
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Post by qhwizard on Aug 19, 2017 20:34:32 GMT -5
wtf are you talking about? I swear you go out of your way to sound stupid. nothing you just said makes any sense. why do you go out of your way to make yourself look stupid? you do it without trying anyway. how is this hindsight? ive been posting all day why I wouldn't bet him and I was right. I never said he was finished, and furthermore after the race I am reassessing his performance after today for his future, not what I should have done or seen going into this race.
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Nostradamus
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man man your time is sand, I am the eyes of Nostradamus all your ways are known to me.
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Post by Nostradamus on Aug 20, 2017 5:46:12 GMT -5
I hope I am wrong but I see Arrogate going down the same road as Mohaymen. All of a sudden he gets bad and is not the same horse anymore. That is how horse racing is and why you really can't be sure about any bets you make because the quality of any horse can change on a dime, from week to week. Why do you think I only picked 40% at DMR today? Why, because if all the horses who I picked would have ran their races I would be close to 100%. big lol. Maybe we can get a match race between Mohaymen and Arrogate and see who wins - I am thinking if it were soon then it would be a real close race. lol.
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cait
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Post by cait on Aug 20, 2017 11:32:12 GMT -5
he may simply not like the Delmar surface but think he will go in BCC - even placing earns a lot of $ - don't think he's "done" do thimk mohaymen is
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qhwizard
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aqueduct sucks, belmont sucks, saratoga sucks, and everything in MD. sucks. wespecially timonium!!
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Post by qhwizard on Aug 20, 2017 15:26:27 GMT -5
comparing mohaymen to arrogate just shows your ignorance when it comes to horse racing. first off arrogate will never end up like that because the moment he becomes non competitive or is just treading water he will be retired, unlike mohaymen who is still sinking faster then the titanic. mohaymen has never even come close to being the horse that arrogate is now, let alone what he was 9 months ago.
meanwhile it is hilarious how you are now preaching and acting as if this is your way of thinking just because I have pounded it into your head, Mr. back class will always show so I will keep betting dropping class horses at short prices hoping they regain their old form. you have once again managed to sound like an ignorant hypocrite.
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teenagewildlife
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my mama said you better get things done, you better not mess with major tom
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Post by teenagewildlife on Aug 20, 2017 21:12:58 GMT -5
I hope I am wrong but I see Arrogate going down the same road as Mohaymen. All of a sudden he gets bad and is not the same horse anymore. That is how horse racing is and why you really can't be sure about any bets you make because the quality of any horse can change on a dime, from week to week. Why do you think I only picked 40% at DMR today? Why, because if all the horses who I picked would have ran their races I would be close to 100%. big lol. Maybe we can get a match race between Mohaymen and Arrogate and see who wins - I am thinking if it were soon then it would be a real close race. lol. Did u really suggest this Arrogate hit his top, had a layoff, now after two off he is fit and will be competitive. Mohaymen needs to be an allowance horse |
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george
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Post by george on Aug 21, 2017 9:34:47 GMT -5
Unfortunately many people have just gotten into the frame of mind that if a horse doesn't win every race, it's washed up.
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qhwizard
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Post by qhwizard on Aug 21, 2017 17:02:31 GMT -5
exactly. I can think of one in particular. remember when game on dude was running? or hoppertunity even now? I'm not and wasn't a fan of either one really, but they are perfect examples. GOD towards the end of his career would throw in clunkers all the time. but then he would jump up and run like a freak now and then as well when the circumstances were right. hoppertunity rarely wins but he is always close and competitive and has ground out over 3 million dollars in earnings. but if some people had their way they would be retired as soon as they lost two races in a row. yet they want a rat like door mat, er I mean bens cat, to race until he is 36 years old just because he can win races against cheap, crappy Maryland breds. but some people are just beyond reasoning with.
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