qhwizard
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Post by qhwizard on Aug 1, 2017 13:04:21 GMT -5
www.drf.com/news/ankle-injury-puts-paid-subcribers-career-jeopardyseriously if some people on here weren't so hypocritical I wouldn't even point this out because I UNDERSTAND it comes with the territory and every track and most trainers have streaks of bad luck where shit happens. but we all know if it were happening at del mar or santa anita that at least one particular loud mouth would be blabbering on about it to no end.
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Post by Nostradamus on Aug 1, 2017 15:44:51 GMT -5
Now do you understand why I was concerned about Arrogate? When a horse completely outclasses the field and can or does win by 30+ lengths some freaky things can go wrong in a seemingly cake walk of a race. Do you get it now? lol.
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qhwizard
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Post by qhwizard on Aug 1, 2017 21:01:55 GMT -5
no. one has nothing to do with the other. its apples and oranges. the fact that you cant see that is hilarious.
first off they took place 3k miles apart.
second,no one ever said that anything is a sure thing or that anything cant happen at any given time. but you want to try and take credit for something AFTER the point once agaim. you are famous for that. you love to redboard.
third, all you do is point out the obvious even when you do redboard. stuff that everyone already sees. or else stuff that makes absolutely no sense to anyone other then yourself, and then you want to try and finagle it to make it look like you were right when you weren't.
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Post by george on Aug 1, 2017 22:23:53 GMT -5
no. one has nothing to do with the other. its apples and oranges. the fact that you cant see that is hilarious. first off they took place 3k miles apart. second,no one ever said that anything is a sure thing or that anything cant happen at any given time. but you want to try and take credit for something AFTER the point once agaim. you are famous for that. you love to redboard. third, all you do is point out the obvious even when you do redboard. stuff that everyone already sees. or else stuff that makes absolutely no sense to anyone other then yourself, and then you want to try and finagle it to make it look like you were right when you weren't. I was worried about Secret Secret in today's 6th at Parx. Everything turned out okay. |
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qhwizard
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Post by qhwizard on Aug 2, 2017 2:33:32 GMT -5
yeah, I had a premonition about that Michael phelps/ shark ordeal myself. I was very relieved once it was over.
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Post by Jon on Aug 2, 2017 22:49:14 GMT -5
LOL Wiz - ya trying to sit up some crap? All I'll say is NY is far more transparent, including a database for injuries and deaths. And thank God it seems Del Mar has fixed the tracks which caused record deaths last year since the BC is there this year.
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qhwizard
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Post by qhwizard on Aug 2, 2017 23:55:10 GMT -5
IM NOT TRYING TO CHANGE FACTS OR SAY DEL MAR HASNT HAD ITS PROBLEMS WITH THEIR TRACK. BUT IM TALKING ABOUT NOW, AND THE FACT THAT ONCE AGAIN WHEN SOMETHING BAD IS GOING ON AT A NEW YORK TRACK IT EITHER ISNT TALKED ABOUT ON HERE OR EXCUSES GET THROWN AROUND LIKE SHIT IN A CAGE FULL OF MONKEYS. DOES TRANSPARENCY REALLY MATTER? EVERYONE CAN SEE WHATS HAPPENING. THATS PRETTY TRANSPARENT IF YOU ASK ME.
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Post by Nostradamus on Aug 3, 2017 11:05:09 GMT -5
I am starting to get real concerned about Mohaymen. They got him entered Saturday at SAR 100K Lure turf stakes race but for Main Track Only. Looks like his connections have lost their faith in him to think he is only good enough to beat some small stakes turf horses on the dirt when they also could have run him just two races later in the Whitney. I hope nothing bad has happen to him since his last race. lol.
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Post by qhwizard on Aug 3, 2017 15:21:49 GMT -5
oh really? jesus, I'm amazed it didn't take a brinks truck to run you over to see the obvious. but don't worry, I'm sure that GRADE 1 stakes is just around the corner. its not about faith. its about reality. he is no good and never will be grade 1 stakes caliber again. in fact I doubt very much he will ever win another race because he isn't grade 2 or 3 stakes caliber either and they obviously aren't going to run him in a claimer. he has already won 5 or 6 races I believe so his alw. conditions are more then likely gone. he should have been retired for stud this year but will definitely be by next year. but then again the ones with common sense figured this out a month or two ago.
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Post by cait on Aug 5, 2017 10:19:16 GMT -5
This is the downside of racing. And breakdowns happen everywhere. Trainers these days are under pressure to win with every horse (racing is more of an investment now not a sport) - ie - think it's more of a scenario of pushing horses too hard. Unlike Delmar, which had serious track deficiencies, not sure it's the Spa's track. $ has become the ultimate goal for most owners and the tracks themselves. And, of course breeding for speed, producing "spindle" legs, increases potential for injuries. It's true, NY racing is very transparent. Don't know if other states have public databases? Is there a cali site where one can track workout injuries? don't think so. Some,f this is political. Cuomo loves bad publicity about racing.Not to mention the racing stupid people he's hired. See article below. This isn't about East vs West-truthfully most of us, including me,would love to see cali racing return to what it used to be -not happening with that incompetent board, the high cost of racing in CA and Stronach www.saratogian.com/sports/20150803/genaro-column-fatalities-an-enigma-at-saratoga |
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Post by george on Aug 5, 2017 11:35:31 GMT -5
Mohaymen was scratched out of today's turf stakes race in favor of tomorrow's dirt stakes race.
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qhwizard
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Post by qhwizard on Aug 5, 2017 23:19:25 GMT -5
This is the downside of racing. And breakdowns happen everywhere. Trainers these days are under pressure to win with every horse (racing is more of an investment now not a sport) - ie - think it's more of a scenario of pushing horses too hard. Unlike Delmar, which had serious track deficiencies, not sure it's the Spa's track. $ has become the ultimate goal for most owners and the tracks themselves. And, of course breeding for speed, producing "spindle" legs, increases potential for injuries. It's true, NY racing is very transparent. Don't know if other states have public databases? Is there a cali site where one can track workout injuries? don't think so. Some,f this is political. Cuomo loves bad publicity about racing.Not to mention the racing stupid people he's hired. See article below. This isn't about East vs West-truthfully most of us, including me,would love to see cali racing return to what it used to be -not happening with that incompetent board, the high cost of racing in CA and Stronach www.saratogian.com/sports/20150803/genaro-column-fatalities-an-enigma-at-saratogablah blah blah!!! same old shit. never anyones fault but ca. racing and their inferior product they are putting out, but yet they dominate everything. your shit responses get so old and repetitive. |
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Post by cait on Aug 6, 2017 10:25:26 GMT -5
facts - know the meaning? obviously you didn't read - just assumed - how many breakdowns occurred during workouts at SA, DM, Gulfstream, FG, Laurel and so on - since you've become such a researcher? oh wait - no - you just read headlines and jump on them to trash everything and anything but cali - people, horses, tracks
was totally ignoring your bs - this one was cut and pasted - sos
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Post by qhwizard on Aug 6, 2017 12:43:30 GMT -5
once again cait, this isn't 1972. this post was about shit that is happening now. not 5,10,20, or 40 years ago. my point was very simple, and true whether or not you want to admit it or not. if the trouble Saratoga is having right now were going on at del mar, you, ev, and jon would never shut up about it. instead no one has said a word since it is going on at the precious little spa.
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Post by cait on Aug 6, 2017 12:56:00 GMT -5
no one said anything about years ago - care to answer the question? of course not - posting about it is not "talking about it? you are the one who does all the attacking possible about any track, person or horse outside of cali
pls go make me a salad now so you can watch mohaymen run - and then trash him, regardless of what he does
ya know more then kiaran or Shadwell? think not
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Post by george on Aug 6, 2017 13:24:21 GMT -5
Well, after that race it looks like he has nothing left. That wasn't a stellar field, and he was all but eased in the stretch.
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Post by Nostradamus on Aug 6, 2017 13:38:03 GMT -5
When he was entered in that turf race for MTO yesterday I knew something was up. That showed the connections had no faith in him and who knows the best but the connections. Looking at the past performances yesterday of Fellowship who ran yesterday in the 7th Gov. Stakes at MNR he ran 3rd two times against Mohaymen in his first few races then ran 3rd against Nyquist but then could not run a lick against stiffer competition since. That told me Mohaymen and Fellowship both are not very class horses and when running together were beating up on lower tier horses like Zulu, Majesto and Greepointcrusader. Sometimes it takes me time to see all the facts but when I do I can adjust my thinking. Mohaymen was never a good horse from what I now see. lol.
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Post by cait on Aug 6, 2017 14:08:41 GMT -5
can't say he was never a good horse as he won his first 5 starts - after the Ftn of Youth, he wasn't the same. wonder if something happened?
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Post by Nostradamus on Aug 6, 2017 14:14:28 GMT -5
Never a good horse meaning he may have been a Gr. 3 on his best day against weaker horses but not the caliber of the best 3yo's of that time.
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Post by byanose13 on Aug 6, 2017 14:37:09 GMT -5
His tank is empty, he is done just like Dortmund but they just can't resist putting them in races they CANNOT win. Cap there is nothing wrong with Mohaymen other than he is washed up unless they want to run him in some AOC races or some overnights. This crap about "finding the right spot" for these horses is almost laughable. They cannot not see what the majority of people across the country see and that is they are no longer serious graded stakes horses unless they makeup some cream puff stakes to lure a "big name" to run and then it always seems to backfire on them when they run like shit as Mohaymen and Dortmund have done recently. I almost believe it is animal cruelty to keep doing this to them.
By the way I had a really bad feeling about Usain Bolt yesterday as I thought he was going to break down or suffer a catastrophic injury in his last race.
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