qhwizard
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aqueduct sucks, belmont sucks, saratoga sucks, and everything in MD. sucks. wespecially timonium!!
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Post by qhwizard on Feb 28, 2017 17:02:25 GMT -5
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Post by jbracing on Mar 1, 2017 6:05:04 GMT -5
Ian Wilkes is all about the horse, unlike Mr Baffert and Pletcher. He has the "goods" with this horse. His new plan of action is perfect for these slugs who he's up against.
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qhwizard
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aqueduct sucks, belmont sucks, saratoga sucks, and everything in MD. sucks. wespecially timonium!!
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Post by qhwizard on Mar 1, 2017 16:44:38 GMT -5
not saying he isn't about the horse. that's not the point. the point is whether or not any horse should be 6/1 in futures 3 months before the race. are these the same "goods" that ron moquette had a couple years ago with his derby slug?
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Post by jbracing on Mar 1, 2017 18:49:34 GMT -5
We are only 66 days until the Derby just to keep the record straight. 6/1 is a very fair price if he's 100% healthy. I really don't follow Ron Moquett I do follow Kiaran, Joe Sharp, Stidham, Danny Phish, Gary Contessa, Ian Wilkes, Art Sherman, Wayne Catalano. These trainers plus a few more put the horse first. That's all I care about the horse
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qhwizard
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Post by qhwizard on Mar 1, 2017 19:19:12 GMT -5
lolol ok pres. you don't follow ron moquette. who do you think you are fooling?
66 days is a lifetime, and in reality, you aren't getting 6/1 by betting early. even if you wait until race day to bet, the odds are that you will still get 3/1 on him even if he is the favorite. so by betting 66 days early on a horse who at this time doesn't even have enough points to guarantee himself a spot in the race, you are merely getting even money more then you would have. plus he has to navigate unscathed through all of the normal bullshit that goes along with everyday training. like what happened here. even the slightest misstep in training by missing a work can throw a horse off of his training regime. if you think that is good value, then there isn't much I can say.
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teenagewildlife
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Post by teenagewildlife on Mar 1, 2017 22:58:12 GMT -5
lolol ok pres. you don't follow ron moquette. who do you think you are fooling? 66 days is a lifetime, and in reality, you aren't getting 6/1 by betting early. even if you wait until race day to bet, the odds are that you will still get 3/1 on him even if he is the favorite. so by betting 66 days early on a horse who at this time doesn't even have enough points to guarantee himself a spot in the race, you are merely getting even money more then you would have. plus he has to navigate unscathed through all of the normal bullshit that goes along with everyday training. like what happened here. even the slightest misstep in training by missing a work can throw a horse off of his training regime. if you think that is good value, then there isn't much I can say. lol far right.
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teenagewildlife
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Post by teenagewildlife on Mar 1, 2017 23:00:27 GMT -5
We are only 66 days until the Derby just to keep the record straight. 6/1 is a very fair price if he's 100% healthy. I really don't follow Ron Moquett I do follow Kiaran, Joe Sharp, Stidham, Danny Phish, Gary Contessa, Ian Wilkes, Art Sherman, Wayne Catalano. These trainers plus a few more put the horse first. That's all I care about the horse prove to me that joe sharp and friends care about horses more than more profitable trainers. this is slander.
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qhwizard
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Post by qhwizard on Mar 2, 2017 0:44:46 GMT -5
exactly. he sounds just like cait. the baffert bashing is so F*ing old. I bash Lukas and pletcher on facts. Lukas has been a 10% trainer at best for the last 18 years while getting nothing but top stock. pletcher has one of the worst derby win %'s of any trainer in history with at least a decent number of starters. he also has more breakdowns then any trainer out there over the last 5 years. but yet baffert gets all the hate for something that happened like 5 years ago over a very short time frame and that has been proven he didn't do on purpose. and why is this? because people are jealous and hate other successful people.
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Post by jbracing on Mar 2, 2017 5:58:50 GMT -5
It appears math isn't a good subject for you. 6/1 pays up to $15.00 while 3/1 pays up to $8.80 that's a difference of $6.20 for every $2 wagered. Please think before you type. About his training regime this is a very minor injury, he's being cautious. lolol ok pres. you don't follow ron moquette. who do you think you are fooling? 66 days is a lifetime, and in reality, you aren't getting 6/1 by betting early. even if you wait until race day to bet, the odds are that you will still get 3/1 on him even if he is the favorite. so by betting 66 days early on a horse who at this time doesn't even have enough points to guarantee himself a spot in the race, you are merely getting even money more then you would have. plus he has to navigate unscathed through all of the normal bullshit that goes along with everyday training. like what happened here. even the slightest misstep in training by missing a work can throw a horse off of his training regime. if you think that is good value, then there isn't much I can say.
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Post by jbracing on Mar 2, 2017 6:02:01 GMT -5
slander in my statement? I only mentioned trainers I follow and respect, haven't uttered a disrespectful word about any other trainer. So just go play in your own toy store mine doesn't have room for folks like you. You go low I go high. We are only 66 days until the Derby just to keep the record straight. 6/1 is a very fair price if he's 100% healthy. I really don't follow Ron Moquett I do follow Kiaran, Joe Sharp, Stidham, Danny Phish, Gary Contessa, Ian Wilkes, Art Sherman, Wayne Catalano. These trainers plus a few more put the horse first. That's all I care about the horse prove to me that joe sharp and friends care about horses more than more profitable trainers. this is slander.
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qhwizard
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Post by qhwizard on Mar 2, 2017 16:06:19 GMT -5
slander in my statement? I only mentioned trainers I follow and respect, haven't uttered a disrespectful word about any other trainer. So just go play in your own toy store mine doesn't have room for folks like you. You go low I go high. really? you don't remember typing this? Ian Wilkes is all about the horse, unlike Mr Baffert and Pletcher Read more: paddockpros.freeforums.net/thread/9142/first-come#ixzz4aClHKT00prove to me that joe sharp and friends care about horses more than more profitable trainers. this is slander.
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qhwizard
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Post by qhwizard on Mar 2, 2017 16:19:37 GMT -5
It appears math isn't a good subject for you. 6/1 pays up to $15.00 while 3/1 pays up to $8.80 that's a difference of $6.20 for every $2 wagered. Please think before you type. About his training regime this is a very minor injury, he's being cautious. i'll let you know when you can even begin to think you can handle me in mathematics son. pay attention to what you read before you incorrectly respond. what I said was if you bet the horse right now you are getting 6 to 1. if you wait you will get at least 3 to 1 and probably more when he comes in with question marks of any sort (like missing works or races from the original plan) so by betting now you are simply getting 15.80 at the most compared to 8,80 at the most. the original 2 dollars wagered has nothing to do with it. you only getting 4/5 extra on your money by betting 66 days before the race. now do you need to me to write that out in crayon for you or can you grasp it like the big boys can? see you tomorrow when the class subject will be MULTIPLE PERSONALITIES AND THE SICKNESS WITHIN. HAVE A NICE DAY!!! lolol ok pres. you don't follow ron moquette. who do you think you are fooling? 66 days is a lifetime, and in reality, you aren't getting 6/1 by betting early. even if you wait until race day to bet, the odds are that you will still get 3/1 on him even if he is the favorite. so by betting 66 days early on a horse who at this time doesn't even have enough points to guarantee himself a spot in the race, you are merely getting even money more then you would have. plus he has to navigate unscathed through all of the normal bullshit that goes along with everyday training. like what happened here. even the slightest misstep in training by missing a work can throw a horse off of his training regime. if you think that is good value, then there isn't much I can say.
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Post by teenagewildlife on Mar 2, 2017 16:55:15 GMT -5
slander in my statement? I only mentioned trainers I follow and respect, haven't uttered a disrespectful word about any other trainer. So just go play in your own toy store mine doesn't have room for folks like you. You go low I go high. prove to me that joe sharp and friends care about horses more than more profitable trainers. this is slander. LMAO. You love to slander trainers and entire race circuits.. and I don't even mind by the way. I think it's entertaining. But it's true. And you still haven't proven how Joe Sharp has more integrity than any other more successful trainer. By the way who do you like in the Fountain of Youth and Withers?
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Post by jbracing on Mar 2, 2017 19:05:29 GMT -5
Ian Wilkes is all about the horse, unlike Mr Baffert and Pletcher
Yes that is my exact quote please Mr Attorney (yeah right) show me where the slander is? About your math skills what I've forgotten you won't ever learn. Your WWF video proves to me your mentality, now go and prepare for wrestle mania.
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Post by jbracing on Mar 2, 2017 19:11:04 GMT -5
teenagewildlife
In the Gotham Stakes I'm backing True Timber In the Fountain of Youth I'm backing Beasley
About Mr Sharp he's a trainer who is with his horses everyday, unlike your two heroes
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qhwizard
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Post by qhwizard on Mar 2, 2017 22:31:43 GMT -5
teenagewildlife In the Gotham Stakes I'm backing True Timber In the Fountain of Youth I'm backing Beasley About Mr Sharp he's a trainer who is with his horses everyday, unlike your two heroes so wtf does that mean? bill Clinton is with Hillary everyday also but that doesn't mean I would nominate him for husband of the year. btw, what happened to the moquette fan club you were president of? you seem to be skirting that name for some reason.
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qhwizard
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aqueduct sucks, belmont sucks, saratoga sucks, and everything in MD. sucks. wespecially timonium!!
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Post by qhwizard on Mar 2, 2017 22:33:45 GMT -5
Ian Wilkes is all about the horse, unlike Mr Baffert and Pletcher Yes that is my exact quote please Mr Attorney (yeah right) show me where the slander is? About your math skills what I've forgotten you won't ever learn. Your WWF video proves to me your mentality, now go and prepare for wrestle mania. world wildlife foundation? I have no idea what you are talking about.
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Post by jbracing on Mar 3, 2017 6:27:27 GMT -5
Mr Qhwizard
You appear to be on a quest for constant battle, I'm not sure why. Possibly you have me confused with someone else. Regarding Mr Moquett he's an admirable trainer in the tracks he runs at. I don't follow him religiously but will use him when I feel he has a key horse in a race I'm playing. I even use Mr Baffert & Mr Pletchers horses when I'm playing multi race wagers. The WWF is the Workd Wide Wrestling federation, as I've stated in my opening sentence I'm not sure why you're always looking to battle. Could it possibly be when you were younger you never made a sports team you tried out for or possibly you weren't very popular in school. I wish you well in your handicapping and in your life.
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Post by byanose13 on Mar 3, 2017 20:46:55 GMT -5
jb it looks as if Beasley(who I liked as well) will be scratching out in order to run in the Tampa Bay Derby next Saturday.
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Post by Evelyn on Mar 4, 2017 11:40:08 GMT -5
Seems like we have a bit of a p-ing contest going on - LOL As they say "Boys will be boys"
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