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Post by Evelyn on Jan 5, 2017 19:42:47 GMT -5
Well - I don't understand Songbird over Beholder especially since Arrogate is nominated It seems the BC is the criteria for Arrogate but not Beholder The 2016 Eclipse Awards finalists (in alphabetical order) are: Horse of the Year: Arrogate, California Chrome, Songbird Two-Year-Old Male: Classic Empire, Not This Time , Practical Joke Two-Year-Old Filly: Champagne Room, Lady Aurelia, New Money Honey Three-Year-Old Male: Arrogate, Exaggerator , Nyquist Three-Year-Old Filly: Cathryn Sophia, Queen's Trust, Songbird Older Dirt Male: California Chrome, Frosted , Lord Nelson Older Dirt Female: Beholder, Cavorting, Stellar Wind Male Sprinter: A.P. Indian, Drefong, Lord Nelson Female Sprinter: Finest City, Haveyougoneaway, Paulassilverlining Male Turf Horse: Flintshire (GB), Highland Reel, Tourist Female Turf Horse: Lady Eli, Miss Temple City, Tepin Steeplechase Horse: Rawnaq (IRE), Scorpiancer (IRE), Top Striker Owner: Juddmonte Farms, Ken and Sarah Ramsey, Spendthrift Farm Breeder: Clearsky Farms, Darley, WinStar Farm Trainer: Bob Baffert, Chad Brown, Mark Casse Jockey: Javier Castellano, Jose Ortiz, Mike Smith Apprentice Jockey: Kevin Gomez, Lane Luzzi, Luis Ocasio from BloodHorse full article: www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/218834/california-chrome-arrogate-songbird-are-hoy-finalists
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qhwizard
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aqueduct sucks, belmont sucks, saratoga sucks, and everything in MD. sucks. wespecially timonium!!
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Post by qhwizard on Jan 5, 2017 23:16:49 GMT -5
explanation...............the eclipse awards are like the Oscars, grammys, and every other awards show out there. for idiots and a waste of time, voted on by a small group of people who very rarely share the publics opinion.
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Post by cait on Jan 6, 2017 15:44:46 GMT -5
the big show gets worse each year - it really started going downhill bigtime when Turf Writers brought in Broadcasters - most of the TV talking heads know nada - just look at TVG lol and for wiz - yep - TVG is totally cali biased! it's not public opinion they disregard - it's facts - like elipses are based on a year - not 1 day
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qhwizard
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aqueduct sucks, belmont sucks, saratoga sucks, and everything in MD. sucks. wespecially timonium!!
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Post by qhwizard on Jan 6, 2017 23:02:41 GMT -5
did I ever say tvg wasn't biased or full of idiots? you have never heard that from me. but see, unlike you, I can see the truth and admit to it. just like the turf writers and drf has always been biased for the east as well. are you going to argue that now? btw, what facts are you talking about? could it be the ones that say that the majority of the top horses still do show up for BC day and if you don't for any reason other then injury then you are basically just a chickenshit and deserve to be looked over on awards day? also sounds like you are trying to make a case for songbird with that comment, which would really be a joke. just like EV said, how can you vote for her unless it is once again stemming from pure bias towards wanting to vote for a filly? she never beat older and never beat or even attempted to face males. she should not even be listed as a possibility.
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