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Post by byanose13 on Apr 9, 2017 6:44:13 GMT -5
Slow is slow but you could have timed them with a sundial yesterday.
Bluegrass = 1:50.39
Wood = 1:50.91
SA Derby = 1:51.91
It may have been the track but it is hard for me to believe that ALL 3 tracks played that slow on a major race day.
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Post by jbracing on Apr 9, 2017 6:51:51 GMT -5
Mr Nose don't pay attention to the times of the races look at how each horse ran. They say time only matters to those in prison.
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Post by byanose13 on Apr 9, 2017 6:58:16 GMT -5
in the last 20 years the Blue Grass has produced NO Kentucky Derby Winners.
Here are the horses that have won or finished in the money in the Bluegrass AND the Derby
year-Horse-BlueGrass finish-Derby finish
1997-Pulpit-1st-4th
1998-Halory Hunter-1st-4th
1999-Menifee-1st-2nd
1999-Cat Thief-2nd-3rd
2000-More Than Ready-2nd-4th
2004-Lion Heart-2nd-2nd
2004-Limehouse-3rd-4th
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Post by byanose13 on Apr 9, 2017 7:02:04 GMT -5
Gormley looked OK but the other two winners finished poorly in my eyes. I also thought Practical Joke came out ever so slightly on McCraken a couple of times in the stretch but I think McCraken really needed that race.
I don't believe that either of the first two finishers want any part of a 1 1/4.
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Post by jbracing on Apr 9, 2017 7:14:43 GMT -5
thanks for that information about the blue grass. this year anything could happen. As I've stated I'm impressed the way Irish War Cry bounced back This could end the woods non entity in the derby.
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Post by byanose13 on Apr 9, 2017 7:48:50 GMT -5
Just a note from 2007 -2014 the Bluegrass was run on Polytrack.
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Post by teenagewildlife on Apr 9, 2017 14:54:26 GMT -5
in the last 20 years the Blue Grass has produced NO Kentucky Derby Winners. Here are the horses that have won or finished in the money in the Bluegrass AND the Derby year-Horse-BlueGrass finish-Derby finish 1997-Pulpit-1st-4th 1998-Halory Hunter-1st-4th 1999-Menifee-1st-2nd 1999-Cat Thief-2nd-3rd 2000-More Than Ready-2nd-4th 2004-Lion Heart-2nd-2nd 2004-Limehouse-3rd-4th good work josh. Irap had the best pedigree, storm cat on the dam side (so did Wild Smash) .. dunno if Irap can go 1 1/4 however as the fractions get slower as the distance gets longer it could suit up well for Irap |
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Post by byanose13 on Apr 9, 2017 15:25:52 GMT -5
He will have to finish faster than he did or he'll get swept up by the closers.
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Post by byanose13 on Apr 10, 2017 15:23:56 GMT -5
Some #s to ponder while we look towards the last two(1 actually) preps.
These are times for the race pace and shape not for the horse who won except by those that led at the 3/4(6f). This is not to say the winner did not finish quickly and have a nice final 1/8 just thought I would put these out for those who like such things.
year-winner-time(6f-1M)-final time(1M-1 1/4)
2006-Barbaro-26/24.1
2007-Street Sense-25.4/25.0
2008-Big Brown-25.2/25.2
2009-Mine That Bird-25.2/25.1
2010-Super Saver-27/26.4
2011-Animal Kingdom-24/24.2
2012-I'll Have Another-25.2/26.3
2013-Orb-26.1/26.3
2014-California Chrome-25.3/26.1
2015-American Pharoah-25.0/26.3
2016-Nyquist-25.1/25.3
Starting with Animal Kingdom I noticed that the last 1/4 was slower than the previous, once again that not be true for the winner but it does give pause to how we handicap this derby being that there is no real standout at this point.
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