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Post by racinggal on Jun 24, 2015 16:03:02 GMT -5
This may be a very good race. Coach has Skyring entered also. And Frac Daddy has a good jockey! (CC - You might know this but I posted anyway!)
Frac Daddy, Departing in Firecracker Rematch
By Claire Novak
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Three who hit the board in the May 30 Opening Verse Stakes will come back to face off again, except for the victorious The Pizza Man, in the $200,000 Firecracker Stakes (gr. IIT) June 27 at Churchill Downs.
The one-mile turf test, carded as race 11 on a "Downs After Dark" card with an approximate post time of 9:39 p.m. EDT, drew a field of nine older horses all assigned 121 pounds, including the intriguing duo of Departing and Medal Count from the barn of trainer Al Stall Jr. The Pizza Man was not under Firecracker consideration and instead is expected to target Arlington's $100,000 Stars and Stripes Handicap (gr. IIIT) over 1 1/2 miles on turf on July 11.
Runner-up in the Opening Verse was Magic City Thoroughbred Partners' Frac Daddy, who has taken to turf with positive results. Trainer Ken McPeek sent the 5-year-old son of Scat Daddy into the Opening Verse for his season debut; he had not run since a fourth-place finish in the July 26 San Diego Handicap (gr. II) on the synthetic surface at Del Mar off a good first part of the year that saw him win both the Ben Ali Stakes (gr. III) on the old Polytrack at Keeneland and the Eclipse Stakes (Can-II) on Polytrack at Woodbine with a fourth-place finish in the Man o' War Stakes (gr. IT) in between.
Frac Daddy set the pace in the 1 1/16-mile Opening Verse before yielding late to The Pizza Man, who won by 2 1/2 lengths.
Rating behind Frac Daddy's pace before ultimately finishing third was Departing, the 2013 Illinois Derby (gr. III) winner who also was making his first start of the year off a seventh in the Nov. 28 Clark Handicap (gr. I). The Opening Verse marked his turf debut for Claiborne Farm and Adele Dilschneider in which he made a bid but hung in the final stages.
Miguel Mena gets the mount from post 7 on the 5-year-old War Front gelding.
Stall will also send out Medal Count in his second start and first stakes try since switching from the barn of Dale Romans. The 4-year-old Dynaformer runner was fifth and last of all June 20 in a 1 1/16-mile allowance optional claimer on the Churchill dirt when starting for the first time since a seventh in the Joe Hirsch Turf Classic Stakes (gr. IT) last September, and wheels back to this spot on the turf just seven days later.
James Graham rides Departing from post 8.
Another familiar entrant is Calumet Farm's hard-knocking Skyring, who comes off a seventh in the May 15 Longines Dixie Stakes (gr. IIT) at Pimlico Race Course. The 6-year-old son of English Channel seeks his first win for Hall of Fame trainer D. Wayne Lukas since taking the Mervin Muniz Jr. Handicap (gr. IIT) at Fair Grounds Race Course & Slots last March, six starts ago. Joe Rocco Jr. rides from the outside post.
John Oxley's Sky Flight, winner of the 2014 Tropical Park Derby, returns in this spot off a layup, having not raced for trainer Mark Casse since a third-place finish after pressing the pace in the Jan. 24 Tampa Bay Stakes (gr. IIIT). The 4-year-old son of Sky Mesa gets Julien Leparoux in the irons from post 2.
Allowance winners R. Great Adventure (fourth in the Opening Verse), Knights Nation, Hammers Terror, and Slip By complete the field. Slip By will run without Lasix for trainer Michael Matz.
Firecracker S. (gr. IIT)
Churchill Downs, Saturday, June 27, 2015, Race 8
1m
Turf
$200,000
3 yo's & up
9:39 PM (local)
1 Frac Daddy (KY) Corey J. Lanerie 121 Kenneth G. McPeek
2 Sky Flight (KY) Julien R. Leparoux 121 Mark E. Casse
3 Slip By (KY) Rafael Manuel Hernandez 121 Michael R. Matz
4 R. Great Adventure (KY) Jamie Theriot 121 Brian Williamson
5 Hammers Terror (KY) Robby Albarado 121 Michael J. Maker
6 Knights Nation (KY) Brian Joseph Hernandez, Jr. 121 Dallas Stewart
7 Departing (KY) Miguel Mena 121 Albert M. Stall, Jr.
8 Medal Count (KY) James Graham 121 Albert M. Stall, Jr.
9 Skyring (KY) Joseph Rocco, Jr. 121 D. Wayne Lukas
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 4:02:00 GMT -5
NOT THE STRONGEST FIELD IN THE WORLD, BUT THEN AGAIN IT IS ONLY A GRADE 3 SO I GUESS IT IS ABOUT RIGHT. I HAVENT SEEN ANY OF THESE HORSES THIS YEAR SO I AM ONLY GOING OFF WHAT I KNOW, WHICH IS IF THIS RACE WERE LAST YEAR I WOULD THINK THAT MEDAL COUNT WOULD BE THE WINNER. TO ME, DEPARTING HAS BEEN A HUGE DISAPOINTMENT. I WAS NEVER ON HIS BANDWAGON REALLY TO BEGIN WITH BUT FOR A TIME IT DID LOOK LIKE HE HAD THE POTENTIAL TO BE A TOP HORSE. I DONT SEE THAT ANYMORE AND THOUGHT HE WAS REGRESSING LAST YEAR.SKYRING HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN INCONSISTENT HORSE WHO OCCASSIONALLY RUNS A BIG ONE WHEN EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT FOR HIM, BUT USUALLY ISNT VERY COMPETITIVE AGAINST REALLY GOOD HORSES. THE OTHERS IVE NEVER HEARD OF OTHER THEN CRAPPY AND MEDAL COUNT.NOW ONCE THEY STARTED RUNNING CRAPPY WHERE HE BELONGED, IN THESE TYPE RACES, HE IMPROVED DRASTICALLY AND WAS BECOMING QUITE CONSISTENT UNTIL THEY DECIDED TO TAKE HIM TO THE MAJOR LEAGUES AND TRY RUNNING OVER HIS HEAD AGAINI GUESS HE RAN WELL ENOUGH IN HIS COMEBACK (IM ASSUMING IT WAS HIS FIRST START) AFTER HIS INJURY AND OFF THE LAYOFF. NOW I DONT KNOW HOW BADLY MEDAL COUNT RAN IN HIS COMEBACK OR IF HE HAD TROUBLE OR WHAT. I HAVENT SEEN IT. BUT AS I SAID, LAST YEAR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN MY PLAY IN HERE.I DONT KNOW HOWEVER ABOUT THE LAYOFF OR THE BARN CHANGE. I JUST KNOW HE HAD THE BIGGEST UPSIDE LAST YEAR.
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Post by mackdaddy on Jun 25, 2015 4:58:05 GMT -5
Not sure if Departing is off form or not. I liked him a few years back. Notice the rider change from Alborado to Mena. Lets see if it pays off
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Post by cait on Jun 25, 2015 13:52:34 GMT -5
decent field - frac ran 2nd, departing 3rd, pizza man, favorite, won in the Opening Verse stakes 5/30 - frac led until the very end so a mile instead of 1 1/16th might be good - agree with wiz except for medal count who, for me, has always been overrated - and talk about finding the right level? he's always raced over his head! I like departing (always have)but love skippy's grandson!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 2:22:18 GMT -5
always raced over his head? how much did he get beat in the belmont? alot less the 54 lengths i believe. like i said i dont know what they have done this year, but off of last years form, medal count would be tough. but i do hope crappy runs well. otherwise del mar will get blamed for whatever causes his poor performance.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 2:22:28 GMT -5
always raced over his head? how much did he get beat in the belmont? alot less the 54 lengths i believe. like i said i dont know what they have done this year, but off of last years form, medal count would be tough. but i do hope crappy runs well. otherwise del mar will get blamed for whatever causes his poor performance.
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Post by mackdaddy on Jun 27, 2015 20:30:09 GMT -5
Medal Count is my pick.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 1:10:55 GMT -5
and crappy is once again right where he is accustomed to being................last.
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Post by mackdaddy on Jun 28, 2015 10:01:17 GMT -5
Medal didn't have the beat break. Apparently the rider change did pay off on Departing
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Post by cait on Jun 28, 2015 15:34:32 GMT -5
yep - the beautiful gray finished last - right next to medal count - the difference being frac ran and led and then spit it up - medal count was last all the way around! frac had no excuses unless something was wrong - which is a concern - he not only had a stall incident but he also had colic and was fighting for his life earlier this year - seeing him racing again and looking well is excellent - to those who keep trashing him - well - it simply shows bias and lack of knowledge - he's won 700K which ain't too shabby
now - mack and wiz - why did you pick medal count? yeah - he held 3rd in the Belmont last year but he really wasn't going anywhere except backwards - he was last in the Haskell, last in the joe hirsch and in his only start this year - an allow opt claimer - also last - either something's wrong or he's way over his head - he's shown nothing so what was it that made him your choice?
departing ran well and mena may be one of the most underrated jocks around - and........the 2nd horse, a nice ls. was ridden by none other than the babe which made a nice ex - lol missed the tri because of frac but hope he's ok today - will try to find out
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 2:35:02 GMT -5
i didnt pick anyone. i said off of what i saw last year and then even clarified it by saying i have no idea what he has done or is doing currently other then what i read and that he has a new trainer. i didnt pick anyone and certainly didnt bet the race. he ran well and was competitive early in the year on synthetic and turf as i remember, then ran well against much better then frac has ever been competitive against in the belmont. he went south at the end of the year in a dirt race and against older as a 3 yr. old. but when he was right, he was a better horse the frac has ever been. if he needed the comeback, this was the race to play him if ever. also he was 12/1 on the line compared to 5/2 on crappy.
also, please dont question my reasoning when your reason for hitting the exacta was because some midget you have the hots for was riding the secon place finisher.
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Post by cait on Jun 29, 2015 18:45:31 GMT -5
lmao - hey big guy - the question stands! don't care if you actually played medal count or not - he was your tout!you have a lot of nerve slamming me for paying bj - everyone here knows I think he's a really good jock and I always play him because he's very lucky for me - the babe thing is a joke going back years but then you have no sense of humor left - sad
as to the "comparison" - well - here:
Starts: 14
Firsts: 3 (1 G1)
Seconds: 2 (1G3)
Thirds: 1 (G1)
Earnings: $480,671
Starts: 20
Firsts: 5 (G2 and a G3 incl)
Seconds: 7 ( 1 in G1, 2 in G3)
Thirds: 0
Earnings: $701,236
enuf said
as to delmar - they have a terrible record of track maintenance - true - they rent at a fair but still........the synthetic had record #'s of deaths and injuries and last year's truf course fiasco sums it up - let's hope they got the dirt track right
please dear, i know I could say it's a beautiful day and you'd come up with some ahole way to slam that and we know you're not well and your meds are making you cranky but give it a rest because you're making an ass of yourself and i don't like that because i do care about ya
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Post by Evelyn on Jun 29, 2015 21:49:04 GMT -5
Well - I had them both in my boxes (didn't include Departing though). But I did have Knights Nation win and place because I liked him. I liked Medal Count and bet him a few times last year, including the Belmont but he's really not done much since then so I also wonder if something is wrong, although he had a 2nd in a race at KY Downs (not much of a field though. I like Frac Dad as I think he's getting better as he gets older. I also think the jockey was smart to do nothing, rather than fight for a placing, when he ran out of steam on Sat. He's back and he did have a lot of problems.
As to the rest - you 2 - knock it off!!
Firecracker favorite Frac Daddy a fighter
By Jonathan Lintner
Louisville Courier Journal
Last summer, trainer Kenny McPeek aimed to enter 2013 Kentucky Derby runner Frac Daddy in the Pacific Classic, a Grade I summer centerpiece of Del Mar's meet.
"He had a stall accident," McPeek said, that put the horse's career in jeopardy.
Frac Daddy recovered, then over the winter ran into another obstacle. Colic put his life in jeopardy.
"He overcame that," McPeek said, "and the truth is, it's a bit of miracle he's made it back to the races."
Now a sturdy favorite of the McPeek barn, Frac Daddy's the same on the morning line as a 5-2 top pick entering Saturday's Grade II Firecracker Stakes. Nine in all entered the 1-mile turf feature on Churchill's "Downs After Dark" card that closes the track's Spring Meet.
Frac Daddy has run once since last July, finishing second in Churchill Downs' May 30 Opening Verse Stakes. The gray-coated 5-year-old set the pace in the 1 1/16-mile test on the grass before giving way in the stretch to The Pizza Man.
"Early in his career, he wasn't what I'd call the smartest horse in the world," McPeek said of the 2013 Derby's 16th-place finisher. "If things didn't go his way, he tended to fold up a little bit. As he's gotten older, he's gotten into a better routine. He's gotten really consistent."
Owned by Magic City Thoroughbred Partners, Frac Daddy will break from the rail with leading Churchill jockey Corey Lanerie aboard in the Firecracker, which goes off a 9:39 p.m. The multiple graded stakes winner has a career record of five victories in 19 starts -- he's won on dirt, turf and synthetic -- with earnings of $699,236.
Top Firecracker contenders include 3-1 Departing, another Triple Crown runner from 2013, as well as 7-2 Sky Flight, an allowance winner at Churchill who hasn't raced since January.
"Really, we want to give him a race before heading up to Saratoga," said Norman Casse, assistant trainer to his father, Mark, of Sky Flight. "He was in last week but the race came off the grass (and was scratched). You know, if he runs his best race he can win the race. More or less, we just want to give him a race before we head up north."
McPeek said Departing is "the horse I'm probably most concerned about." The son of War Front ran third by a head to Frac Daddy in the Opening Verse, his turf debut.
Departing trainer Al Stall, who also has Medal Count entered in the Firecracker, said Departing's last start "wasn't a bad race. It wasn't a great race. It was OK. He handled the course properly which is more important than anything else.
"You would think he'd move forward off that race. We had 183 days off. I just hope he's fitter and little more mentally dialed in. He'll have a chance if that happens."
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2015 3:23:47 GMT -5
lmao - hey big guy - the question stands! don't care if you actually played medal count or not - he was your tout!you have a lot of nerve slamming me for paying bj - everyone here knows I think he's a really good jock and I always play him because he's very lucky for me - the babe thing is a joke going back years but then you have no sense of humor left - sad as to the "comparison" - well - here: Starts: 14 Firsts: 3 (1 G1) Seconds: 2 (1G3) Thirds: 1 (G1) Earnings: $480,671 Starts: 20 Firsts: 5 (G2 and a G3 incl) Seconds: 7 ( 1 in G1, 2 in G3) Thirds: 0 Earnings: $701,236 enuf said as to delmar - they have a terrible record of track maintenance - true - they rent at a fair but still........the synthetic had record #'s of deaths and injuries and last year's truf course fiasco sums it up - let's hope they got the dirt track right please dear, i know I could say it's a beautiful day and you'd come up with some ahole way to slam that and we know you're not well and your meds are making you cranky but give it a rest because you're making an ass of yourself and i don't like that because i do care about ya how the F* was he a tout? all i did was point something out and specifically said i knew nothing about the race or any of the horses form this year. are you blind? cant you read? how is it that i dont have a sense of humor just because i dont kow of some inside joke you have about some journeyman jockey? you have really lost your mind. exactly what are you trying to say with your comparison? and what does enuff said mean? because if your trying to say crappy is clearly better, then once again, you dont know much about what your looking at. even your own points................. starts/wins= basically the same. earnings per start= basically the same. quality of competition= 1 grade 1 win for medal, zero for crappy. two more graded placings for crappy, but in 6 more starts, so presumably, the same. now as i said, biggest difference...............12/1 on one of them and 5/2 on the other one. is that enuff said? and most importantly of all, as i said, it was a stab on medal count hoping they might have found out and fixed what was wrong. obviously, they didnt. and yet, he still beat crappy even after getting a horrible start. but at least you kept your record intact by once again bringing up del mar, baffert, or anything else west coast related to bash in any given thread. |
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Post by cait on Jun 30, 2015 15:25:00 GMT -5
you threw in Delmar - I was responding - rest of the post not worth anyone's time - here - have a field day with this "it's a beautiful day"
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Post by Nostradamus on Jun 30, 2015 19:58:13 GMT -5
Frac was in the lead all the way around and faded at the very end to finish only 6 3/4 lengths behind the winner. Medal Count plodded at the back of the pack and beat one tiring horse - the Frac by one length. It don't take a horse racing genius to figure out who is the way much better horseflesh. lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2015 3:18:21 GMT -5
lol. way much better? wow. what sort of six figure job did you claim to have last year? i sure as hell hope it wasnt dependant upon your grammatical prowess or your overall grasp of the english language.
did i question who ran the better race saturday? no. obviously the point of playing medal count would have been hoping for a form reversal after the comebacker which he may have needed, the layoff, and the trainer change. it didnt happen. did i say he ran a good race saturday? also once again, did i ever say i had a strong opinion on the race or was even playing him? are you all F*ing ed?
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Post by mackdaddy on Jul 1, 2015 12:54:59 GMT -5
Rider change paid off for Departing. I liked James Graham and my pick was wrong. Frac Daddy is a complete bum and how the F McFart cons his way into owners throwing money into his direction? At least Lukas established himself before robbing Lewis, Klein and Calumet. McFart is a never was
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Post by Nostradamus on Jul 1, 2015 20:03:06 GMT -5
lol. way much better? wow. what sort of six figure job did you claim to have last year? i sure as hell hope it wasnt dependant upon your grammatical prowess or your overall grasp of the english language. did i question who ran the better race saturday? no. obviously the point of playing medal count would have been hoping for a form reversal after the comebacker which he may have needed, the layoff, and the trainer change. it didnt happen. did i say he ran a good race saturday? also once again, did i ever say i had a strong opinion on the race or was even playing him? are you all F*ing ed? What is wrong with that. The purpose of language is for expression and getting a point across. Language is always evolving and I reserve the right to be on the vanguard of that evolving and use my own creative style to express thing like I want to. That is why I am a genius and you are not. And what the hell language is F*ing ed? lol. Hey I did not say you touted medal count. I was just making an observation about a horse you definitely thought was much better than Crappy. lol |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 0:39:58 GMT -5
F*ing ed is what this site shows after they censor f u c k i ng r e t a r d e d !!
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