EBBY @ Del Mar

everything you said is so true nose. especially the last line.

those expectations are ridiculous, especially when they have never run. that is why I put very little behind breeding anymore. I mean its great to see those numbers next to the horse you like in the form saying they cost 500k, 750k, or even in the millions. but what does it mean? zilch. especially once a horse has had a couple of starts. if a horse cant run, he cant run, and vice versa. I said what you just did a long time ago about ebby. if you were dumb enough to play her when she went east last year off of an alw. win, then that is on whoever did it. she had never, and still hasn't, shown any reason to think she belonged in that race. she is what she is. I don't have any thing aganst her or shirreffs, although I have never thought all that much of him as a trainer. he has just had some good horses fall into his lap over the years.

the other comment about how they all cant be man o war is true also. horses lose sometimes. how many horses have never lost a race< other then ones that get hurt early in their career? Bayern lost today. did he have an excuse? in my mind he did, as he has in his other races he lost. but I could see going into this race today there were reasons he might lose. doesn't mean I didn't like him or think he would win also. but at 2-1, you don't bet a horse if there are ANY doubts. todays track was not conducive to speed. that doesn't mean he has to have a speed bias to win. but it would be nice if there wasn't an anti- speed bias. he isn't the only horse to lose today. others may not consider this an excuse. but these ar the kind of people who probably look at things in a more basic, black and white way. whatever floats your boat. either way, just because he didn't win today does not mean he wont beat this same field next time on a different track. this is one of the biggest problems with most racing fans and handicappers. they are like this whole generation is with basic life. what have you done for me lately? that's their mentality. I find it amazing that some people can forgive and kepp betting horses who are their favorites for off the wall reasons like they like their name, they are a gray, they are trained by a certain guy, or whatever. but when a horse like Bayern loses because of what might be a handicappers excuse, they want to write him off and say he cant do certain things off of one race.

This is a little late but....

Why Wiz? do the have a carousel there?