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Post by Challedon on May 8, 2014 17:26:56 GMT -5
down 43% from same Thursday last year
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 23:45:15 GMT -5
lololol I love it!!!
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Post by Jon on May 9, 2014 0:30:29 GMT -5
Not much effect on the 2 days CD cares about:
From DRF; Kentucky Oaks handle down 1.6 percent; Handle on the Oaks was $14.02 million, compared with $14.24 million last year, Kentucky Derby handle down 0.8 percent; Betting on the Derby was $124.66 million, according to the chart of the race, compared with betting of $125.66 million last year
Meet runs thru 6/29. Final #'s will tell the story - Whether the handle decline was an immediate reaction to the takeout rates raised and whether it was sustained.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 2:05:20 GMT -5
and you wouldn't expect it to because those aren't real horseplayers or fans. just a bunch of jackoffs running around getting drunk. but if you think they can support a full meet where the handle goes down 25% or more on 2 days of success, you are crazy. the true horseplayers are speaking. if they don't listen then it just goes to show what they think of their customers. and anyone who continues to bet that place or any other CDI track is a 2 dollar whore willing to be treated like shit.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2014 2:07:10 GMT -5
and considering on track attendance was up and handle was down, that does show that the real players stayed away on derby weekend as well.
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Post by Challedon on May 10, 2014 10:10:46 GMT -5
keeping with the CDI theme, this year Finger Lakes decided to have CDI distribute it's signal so what did CDI do...they raised the host fee for the signal handle was down 42 % from the same day last year the first Saturday was down 49% from the 1st Satruday last year gotta love CDI.....
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2014 12:27:42 GMT -5
but it doesn't matter, right chall? lol
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Post by Challedon on May 12, 2014 0:28:07 GMT -5
Churchill was down 38% on Saturday and 25 % on Sunday
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2014 1:36:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2014 9:47:02 GMT -5
Churchill was down 38% on Saturday and 25 % on Sunday Is there another takeout level that they can raise to if their live handle doesn't average $1M, or $900K, etc.?
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Post by hesnotmypres on May 12, 2014 11:33:04 GMT -5
Just waiting for them to start slashing the purses...
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Post by Challedon on May 12, 2014 12:40:49 GMT -5
Churchill was down 38% on Saturday and 25 % on Sunday Is there another takeout level that they can raise to if their live handle doesn't average $1M, or $900K, etc.? I haven't read or heard anything regarding that.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2014 14:34:41 GMT -5
no they will just raise the takeout to 70%.
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Post by Jon on May 12, 2014 14:53:58 GMT -5
Or charge 80% for their signal. They had crap cards Sat & Sun. So thankfully I wasn't " a 2 dollar whore willing to be treated like shit. : Really don't think they give a damn about racing revenue. They are a Casino Co.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2014 14:59:35 GMT -5
good then let them run the place into the ground. good riddance. goodbye TC. and you can thank all the places who sold their souls to the casinos so they could have bloated purses for the demise of horse racing.
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Post by Jon on May 12, 2014 15:02:34 GMT -5
LOL Keep wishing Wiz. TC not going away.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2014 16:41:34 GMT -5
it will eventually when Churchill stops running live racing.
don't think for a second that that is impossible. it will happen eventually if they keep running their business the way they do.
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Post by donrock on May 12, 2014 19:40:01 GMT -5
The call for a boycott and the lousy cards are catching up with them. Too bad they are not even finished counting the take from derby week.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2014 21:19:20 GMT -5
Here's an interesting article about the Calder/Gulfstream dispute and potential agreement. www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/85028/slots-revenue-issue-in-gulfstream-calder-planI was under the impression, from the news reports, that Gulfstream was out handling Calder with respect to their slot machines. It turns out that Calder is pulling in about 40% more than the slots handle than Gulfstream (~$73M vs. ~$49m) If Calder/CDI wanted to "win" this dispute they could simply by putting in more slots profits into their purses, drawing away some of the Gulfstream horsemen. But they'd rather nickel and dime the horsemen and allow Gulfstream to lure them away. Bottom line, all the talk about CDI being more interested in slots profits than racing operations is sort of confirmed by this article.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2014 22:13:12 GMT -5
which is why the sooner they are out of the racing game the better. as ive said all along, things have to get worse before they will get better. downsizing and losing tracks that are unsuccessful and not interested in racing need to go, regardless of their history or standing in the current market. if CDI and Churchill want to run their tracks this way, then boycott them until racing is no longer feasible and all the states do as louisianna is doing right now. forcing them to run things correctly or taking away their casino licenses.
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