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Post by Evelyn on Feb 22, 2014 18:50:57 GMT -5
My heart goes out to whomever lost a million on that terrible DQ! HRTV just showed the replay. The winner did nothing wrong. Could it be Stronach didn't want to pay out? What a terrible "beat" by DQ.
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Post by Challedon on Feb 22, 2014 23:53:10 GMT -5
why is the head-on replay not available
I can't find it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 1:45:39 GMT -5
it looke like he right call to me. he definitely came out in the upper stretch and took the other horses path, who then took up, lost about a length, and then rerallied to lose by a head. and I had no interest in the race. just now watched it.
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Post by hesnotmypres on Feb 23, 2014 9:00:46 GMT -5
I've watched the reaction on twitter from many handicappers and so called experts they are all in agreement. The DQ was warranted, I thought it could have gone either way myself.
I feel awful for the person who had the ticket.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 9:29:33 GMT -5
why is the head-on replay not available I can't find it twinspires has the head on a few times starting about 4 minutes into the race replay video, but they don't have the full head on replay. From the pan shot, the 12 did move out just as the 13 horse was getting to him. Then the 13 regrouped and came back on to lose by a neck or so. You can see it more distinctly in the head on (although there was no contact) If the 13 hadn't come back they may not have disqualified the 12, but since he did they may have figured the drifting cost him more than a neck. But it's very subjective, and today if the same thing happens they may not disqualify the horse. |
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Post by godfather on Feb 23, 2014 9:30:45 GMT -5
The DQ in the final leg of the pick 6 at Gulfstream Saturday will probably go down in the books as one of the most famous DQ's in horse racing history strictly because of the amount of money involved. The horse at Gulfstream was DQ'd for the exact same reason a horse was DQ'd at Tampa last week and cost me a win ticket on a 9-1 horse and cost me a $1200 pick 3. In both cases there was no contact between the horses involved. When the objection/inquiry sign went up at Tampa last week Jeff Siegal with HRTV immediately said there would be a disqualification. He said even though there was no contact, the horse on the lead created what the stewards call a "Potential Heel Clipping Incident" when he drifted over in front of another horse. It was the same exact situation at Gulfstream yesterday. In both cases the original winner was not disqualified for costing another horse a higher placing. Both of these horse were DQ'd because the stewards felt the jockey was careless and created a unsafe condition during the race.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 9:37:42 GMT -5
GF, see others' comments in the Florida forum. I think most agree that although there was no contact, it was "interference". That explanation about causing an unsafe condition is interesting. I've seen similar disqualifications (I didn't see the Tampa race) in the past. There doesn't necessarily need to be contact, but the 12 did move into the 13's path.
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Post by Challedon on Feb 23, 2014 9:39:07 GMT -5
the head-on replay of the race is still not available
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Post by godfather on Feb 23, 2014 9:40:04 GMT -5
The DQ in the final leg of the pick 6 at Gulfstream Saturday will probably go down in the books as one of the most famous DQ's in horse racing history strictly because of the amount of money involved. The horse at Gulfstream was DQ'd for the exact same reason a horse was DQ'd at Tampa last week and cost me a win ticket on a 9-1 horse and cost me a $1200 pick 3. In both cases there was no contact between the horses involved. When the objection/inquiry sign went up at Tampa last week Jeff Siegal with HRTV immediately said there would be a disqualification. He said even though there was no contact, the horse on the lead created what the stewards call a "Potential Heel Clipping Incident" when he drifted over in front of another horse. It was the same exact situation at Gulfstream yesterday. In both cases the original winner was not disqualified for costing another horse a higher placing. Both of these horse were DQ'd because the stewards felt the jockey was careless and created a unsafe condition during the race.
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Post by byanose13 on Feb 23, 2014 9:49:19 GMT -5
In basketball they would call that a moving pick.
Anytime you see a horse carry another out a couple of paths or cause a horse to alter his course you are going to see that objection sign light up.
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Post by godfather on Feb 23, 2014 9:54:05 GMT -5
George,
Until Siegal mentioned it last week I had never heard of the "Potential Heel Clipping Incident" rule. Now I have seen this rule applied two weeks in a row. At least the stewards at two different tracks were consistant. In both cases people who lost out on winning tickets due to the DQ's should be frustrated with the careless riding of the jockey and not the stewards.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 9:57:06 GMT -5
the head-on replay of the race is still not available I don't think you'll see it posted - the video of the running of the race and the long replays (including several head on shots) was so long that maybe they don't have the space to add the full head on? |
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Post by Challedon on Feb 23, 2014 10:09:04 GMT -5
that would be the first time I've heard of that
the head-on for the other races are available but not that one
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Post by Evelyn on Feb 23, 2014 13:30:57 GMT -5
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Post by hesnotmypres on Feb 23, 2014 18:20:04 GMT -5
Today there were 7 Horses that would have paid out the $1.85 million... Horse came back and broke someone's heart again...
Winning tickets paid $142,796 on to Wednesday......
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