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Post by Challedon on Jan 30, 2014 15:52:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 16:08:18 GMT -5
Welcome to Ontario.
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Post by Challedon on Jan 30, 2014 16:10:02 GMT -5
welcome to the future in general
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 16:13:23 GMT -5
where did this money come from? how was it accumulated?
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Post by Challedon on Jan 30, 2014 16:14:25 GMT -5
the money is from casino revenue
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 16:19:27 GMT -5
ok so another track or should I say area where racing cant sustain itself without casino money? it would be one thing if this money had been raised by the racing owners or industry and the state was trying to take it away from them. but sorry, if it was only given to the racing industry by the casinos to keep them afloat, then it should be used for something else if it of importance. sorry but the school system is a little more important then keeping racing alive in another failing jurisdiction.
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Post by lt1 on Jan 30, 2014 20:18:42 GMT -5
Just more political bs. The public school systems have had money poured into them for years and are failing miserably.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 22:08:28 GMT -5
JUST ANOTHER TOUGH TALKING POLITICIAN WHO IS OUT OF IDEAS, HE HAS FAILED HIS CONSTITUENTS SO NOW HE HAS TO TRY AND RAID THE PEOPLES MONEY. THEY HAVE TRIED THIS SEVERAL TIMES AND EACH TIME THEY HAVE FAILED. I GUESS SOME POLITICIANS LOVE HITTING THEIR HEADS AGAINST BRICK WALLS.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 23:20:31 GMT -5
CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG. NO POLITICAL COMMENTARY ON HERE, CORRECT? GUESS I WILL HAVE TO MAKE A REPORT ON SHORTY.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 23:23:49 GMT -5
Just more political bs. The public school systems have had money poured into them for years and are failing miserably. COMPLETELY AGREE LT1, BUT THE SAME CAN BE SAID FOR PENNSYLVANIA RACING WITHOUT CASINO MONEY. |
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Post by Evelyn on Jan 31, 2014 9:02:30 GMT -5
I really don't understand the hatred for casino dollars. Would you rather pay more taxes? Would you rather there be no tracks? Apparently so. Wiz - you're the one who keeps saying racing can't go backwards. Well - OK. The fact is racinos have helped racing. What's wrong with that? NOTHING! Indiana and OH are growing - because of casino $. Other tracks are surviving and keeping a long time industry working. What's wrong with that? Racinos are the "now?. It's better to co-exist than not exist.
What has happened is, because CA has no casino $, they can't keep pace with purse $ so there is no traveling to CA. It's become a very localized racing circuit, except for a few major races. If there had been a racino at Hollywood, maybe we'd still have that beautiful historical track.Your rants sound like sour grapes. If CA were the only state with casinos, you'd be raving about them!
We can't go backwards. Going forward does involve dealing with casinos. That's the way it is. All the ranting about how bad they are is "backwards" thinking.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 17:03:42 GMT -5
they may be the now, only because people are short sighted. they are not the future. they are a quick fix that will eventually ruin and completely destroy racing. just like 30 years ago when simulcasting started, everyone was gung ho for it because it was a quick shot in the arm to boost purses and put quick money into the horsemens pockets. now look what it has become. it has killed live racing. people did not look to the future. the same thing is happening here. look how easy it is or can be for all that money to just go away. one vote and racing will be dead in penn.!! and that is WITH an agreement still in tact with the csasinos. how long before the other states start doing the same thing? or even more importantly, even without that happening, when the agreements the tracks have with the casinos run their course and the casinos are no longer obligated to give a percentage to the racing industry anymore, everyone of these tracks will be dead unless they can be self sufficient. and what are the chances that will happen when there is a casino sitting next door or better yet on your very own property competing with you? its like opening your door and inviting a vampire into your house. why is this so hard to see? are you really that short sighted? this has zero to do with ca. other then the fact that ca. hasn't given in yet. yes it is currently hurting them, but if they survive, in the long run they will come out on top.
and btw, ca. even without casinos DOES keep pace with purses. aside from new York, they are basically on the same level or higher then almost any other tracks out there. its not like they are at the bottom of the barrel. no, they aren't giving away 600k every weekend to fund five and six horse fields, but so what? they are still competitive with just about everyone else. sour grapes? no. im the one who said Hollywood had to go, and it did. just because I don't want to see every shack of racing facility stay afloat does not equate to sour grapes.
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Post by Evelyn on Feb 1, 2014 0:42:36 GMT -5
All this gloom and doom! Racing will find a way to survive. I agree about the simulcasting decision but Raciong's still here 30 yrs later. I also admit I love being able to see and wager on races far away.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2014 1:12:59 GMT -5
yes racing is here, but is it what it was 30 years ago? everyone on here complains everyday about the condition racing is in, and the reason it is in that condition is because people didn't look at the long term repercussions of what they were doing. turning a blind eye to the problem and just hoping racing "finds a way" to survive wil guarantee nothing more then more gloom and doom in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 11:25:24 GMT -5
PEOPLE WHO HATE CASINOS HATE TO HEAR THIS TYPE OF NEWS www.paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/despite-the-weather-penn-national-sets-january-wagering-record/Seven of the 18 live racing programs scheduled for January at Hollywood Casino at Penn National Race Course had to be cancelled due to winter weather conditions that ranged from “The Polar Vortex” and its sub-zero temperatures to a never-ending barrage of snow and ice storms. But when the Grantville oval did get to run, bettors across the country expressed their interest in the local races with record-setting pari-mutuel numbers. Betting eclipsed the million dollar mark on each of the eleven pari-mutuel cards raced during the month. It was the first time in Penn National’s 43-year history that every live program conducted in a single month reached the seven-figure mark. Average total daily all-sources handle for the month was $1,170,503. That figure, despite the elements, fell just short of last January’s record-setting average daily live handle of $1,260,173. Penn National’s next live card is scheduled for Wednesday, February 5, with post time at 6:00PM. “Our horsemen, jockeys, employees and fans braved some very difficult elements this past month. It is always satisfying to have some positive news come out of those trying situations,” said Race Secretary David Bailey. |
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Post by canterburykid on Feb 27, 2014 10:55:22 GMT -5
I wondered when the draw back for large purses for low claimers would rear its ugly head, Seems top trainers would ship in for the purse & then exit stage left w/ minimal positive impact for the state. Shouda seen that one coming, Legislation needs to be put in place that connections must have established barns in the state which is much more in line w/the original spirit of the funding. Has any one herd what happened at the legislation proposal to withdraw casino funding?
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Post by keystone on Mar 24, 2014 15:48:13 GMT -5
EVEN MORE BAD NEWS FOR YOU SLOT/CASINO HATERS The Pennsylvania Horse Breeders Association said it expects purse money for Pennsylvania-bred racehorses to increase this year. In its most recent newsletter the PHBA said more than 550 restricted races valued at a total of $14.5 million will be offered at the state's three Thoroughbred tracks in 2014. Estimates call for $8.2 million to be available at Hollywood Casino at Penn National Race Course, $4.4 million at Parx Racing, and $2 million at Presque Isle Downs & Casino. The Pennsylvania-bred stakes schedule, which will offer races worth a total of $1 million, will be released soon, the PHBA said. There also will be the customary breeder, owner, and stallion awards, which amounted to about $10 million in 2013, as well as bonuses for owners of Pennsylvania-breds that finish in the top three in overnight races at the three racetracks; last year the awards totaled about $7 million. The program is largely funded through revenue from slot machines in the state. PHBA president Brian Sanfratello said the Pennsylvania Breeding Fund Program "distributes more money, on a per-foal basis, than nearly every other state-bred program." Purses at the three Pennsylvania tracks last year totaled $115 million, according to The Jockey Club Information Systems. About $12.5 million, including stakes, was paid in restricted purses, with Penn National leading the way at $7.54 million. Read more on BloodHorse.com: www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/83980/pa-bred-purses-expected-to-grow-this-year#ixzz2wvWpFKXo |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 17:07:14 GMT -5
What about the future reduction of slot machine revenue to the horsemen and the tracks that have been proposed?
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Post by keystone on Mar 24, 2014 19:43:50 GMT -5
What about the future reduction of slot machine revenue to the horsemen and the tracks that have been proposed? IT DIDNT CARRY ENOUGH VOTES TO BE HEARD ON THE FLOOR |
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