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Post by racinggal on May 6, 2013 16:35:25 GMT -5
I'm confused! Did this track actually have quarterhorse racing or were people betting on barrel racing? Did they even have Barrel Racing? I know the permit was just so they could have the "poker room", but, don't licensed tracks have to run a certain number of days? Isn't there a track that only races 1 day/year? I'm sorry for all the questions but I'm trying to learn. Panhandle barrel racing track loses legal fight The Associated Press TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- An administrative judge is ruling that the state was wrong to let a Panhandle track conduct barrel racing. The ruling issued Monday means that the track in the town of Gretna could be forced to shut down both its track and its poker room. Creek Entertainment Gretna opened the track in December 2011 which features the rodeo-style sport of barrel racing. The operators maintained that barrel racing was legal because they had obtained a permit for quarter horse racing from the state. But others in the quarter horse industry challenged whether the Department of Business and Professional Regulation had the authority to allow it. The state has 30 days to decide whether to appeal the ruling. An agency spokeswoman said state regulators were still reviewing the decision. Read more here: www.miamiherald.com/
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Post by racinggal on May 7, 2013 21:57:30 GMT -5
I found this article and apparently the plan was to have betting on barrel racing! I wonder how that would work since they race 1 at a time? I laughed at the last line - it's true! The whole concept was intriguing. Would rodeos then offer betting on all events? Maybe some other enterprising track owner will suggest betting on those cute dachshund races. Florida gambling Judge says state erred in barrel racing permit A judge's ruling released Monday has put the future of barrel racing in Florida in jeopardy, although those at Gretna say it requires only technical changes. An 85-page Final Order from Administrative Law Judge John G. Van Laningham states that the Florida Division of Pari-Mutuel Wagering was incorrect in granting the license for racing at Gretna. The judge determined Florida barrel racing to be an unadopted rule, which puts the existing licenses in question. So what happens next will likely involve some more legal wrangling. His ruling challlenged the PMW's policy that led to the license being issued, according to plaintiff lawyer Mike Barry. From the judge's report: "Based on the foregoing Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law, it is ORDERED that the policy of the Division pursuant to which "Gretna-style" barrel match racing is treated as the legal equivalent of traditional quarter horse racing, so that a quarter horse racing permitholder is able to obtain an annual license authorizing pari-mutuel wagering operations on barrel match racing, is an unadopted rule which violates section 120.54(1)(a), Florida Statutes." Those pointing to the convoluted state of Florida gambling have been using Gretna as the poster case. Gretna, 25 miles west of Tallahassee, has had track owners operating barrel-racing to fulfill the pari-mutuel requirement that is a prelude to slots. The track was the first in the world that offered wagering on an event most often performed at rodeos. A track in Hamilton County followed.This from Wesley Cox, chairman of the North Florida Horsemen’s Association (NFHA): “We are pleased this ruling means that the North Florida Horsemen will be allowed to continue conducting races and reap the benefits of racing at Gretna. NFHA will work with the facility to make the necessary technical changes to our racing per the judges’ order while the appeal is pending.” My take: the reference to "technical changes" could include a switch from barrel racing to quarterhorse racing. I emailed that speculation to Cox's representative and didn't hear back. Part of the 17-paragraph statement from the United Florida Horsemen included this comment from Steve Fisch, FQHRA president:“... this trial has been about far more than serving justice for an outright hijack of Florida’s legislative and regulatory process by a few special interests. “Our fight has been about protecting the Florida horse racing industry’s $2.2 billion annual contribution to Florida’s economy that brings solid business, tourism and jobs to our state, as well as national and international prestige in the finest international horse racing communities." Those at PMW say they are reviewing the ruling. To read the Order, go to www.doah.state.fl.us/ROS/2011/11005796.pdf This is a darned interesting topic, but for the everyday gambler, I'm not sure it has much impactwww.southflorida.com/gambling/south-florida-gambling-blog/sf-judge-invalidates-barrel-racing-in-florida-20130506,0,1725781.story
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Post by Challedon on May 8, 2013 18:42:59 GMT -5
I don't know how the betting on barrel racing worked. I do know that handles for the day were usually less than 1000.
One place in Florida conducted Jai Alai so they could have a poker room. It was the same 2 guys playing every match. I think they played about 5 or 6 matches per card.
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Post by racinggal on May 8, 2013 18:52:58 GMT -5
Thank you Challedon! It just seems crazy to me that legally gambling licenses are tied to racing - but - there really isn't much racing tied to the gambling licenses! It all seems "fishy" and wrong.
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