heading to horse players

this room has got me baffled almost every time I type something up someone says you remind me of ths guy that used to be here. I'm not, can any of you learn to hum a new tune?

this is a place to discuss horses and wagering yet every time I start a topic point people avoid discussing said topic. there are plenty of forums to do your juvenile tactics elsewhere.
I enjoy contests much more than wagering, my contest of choice is live bankroll. this way you're betting your own money it takes away the pick and pray theory.

I leave today, my feelings are not expecting a good finish. I'm more interested in placing wagers through the tellers windows.

Yes, Good Luck. I have never been in one of the big contests only local ones here @ churchill.

notice how he just skipped right past my last comment without responding to it? I guess he has selective memory on what he sees.

not sure. might be pres also playing good cop bad cop. but I don't know so not making any accusations.

well make up your mind. can we discuss horse racing and wagering or now can we also discuss all of these other topics? or should we just wait until you start a discussion and then see if it is ok with you for anyone to respond to it?

they have a sign up in the ballroom that says wagering outside of the state of nevada is a misdemeanor and you can be disqualified from the contest. absolutely bizarre.

quite possibly one of the dumbest quotes I have ever read or heard.

"a true handicapper can care less about expenses or takeout, it's about winning or finishing high up the leader board. only a philandering psychopath would utter those words. sure is a lot of ignorant folks out there with way to much time on their hands. or in a few cases everyone in their life has thrown them to the curb and they have nothing else but these communities.

wrong. a true handicapper or horseplayer isn't even in these contests unless it is just to kill time from boredom or just to try and bolster their own ego. any true horseplayer always cares about takeout because that is the usual deciding point on whether or not a long term player is going to make a profit or not. if you are betting in high volume, takeout does matter. I played in this very contest back in 2005 and 2006. they had 2 a year at the Orleans then and the entry fee was 500 plus rates were adjusted to the horsemens rate where rooms were cheaper and food was comped so it wasn't that big of a deal. now it is 1500 I believe. but even then, there were very few real horseplayers who played in it. mostly just suckers who could could never win in real life gambling. whats funny is I made more money that weekend betting into the pools then anyone outside of the top 3 finishers in the contest did. that was back when they were doing the NTRA weekly p5 where the races would consist of different tracks, with a 500k pool guarantee every week. I played a sheet with another pro who just happened to be sitting at my table with me. I think we played like 288 total and it payed just under 30k, which I actually thought was low. I thought it was going to pay closer to a hundred. my point though is when I hit this, most of the people not only at my table but also all around the room looked at me like I was a F*ing velociraptor!! it was as if they had never seen anyone play 288 dollar spread sheets before and make an actual hit for 30k. they were all simpletons making across the board wagers and an occasional exacta or trifecta box. most of them had no idea how to gamble. they thought knowing how to read a racing form pick a horse made them a horseplayer. like running a computer program that spit out playable horses was going to lead them to the promised land. the fact is contest players, especially contests like this one, mean nothing when it comes to the ability to win or make money. if you are playing in these contests it better be just to kill time because the winner usually ends up being some schlub who couldn't support himself at the track if his life depended on it.