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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 16:00:23 GMT -5
Brisnet's "profit line" for this race (with ML):
Melanistic 9-2 (9-2 ML) Hero's Marine 30-1 (20-1 ML) Ebloiussante 7-2 (4-5 ML) Macha 3-1 (5-2 ML) Changethechannel 3-1 (3-1 ML)
If I were betting to win, I'd bet bet on Melanistic, and I'll be watching the show pool - could be an opportunity for "ALL" to show.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 16:21:56 GMT -5
On the track, 10 MTP:
Melanistic 9-2 (9-2 ML) Currently 15-1 Hero's Marine 30-1 (20-1 ML) Currently 41-1 Eblouissante 7-2 (4-5 ML) Currently 1-9 Macha 3-1 (5-2 ML) Currently 7-1 Changethechannel 3-1 (3-1 ML) Currently 13-1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 16:27:03 GMT -5
5 MTP Profit Line (Morning Line) Current Odds Melanistic 9-2 (9-2 ML) Currently 10-1 Hero's Marine 30-1 (20-1 ML) Currently 31-1 Eblouissante 7-2 (4-5 ML) Currently 1-5 Macha 3-1 (5-2 ML) Currently 9-2 Changethechannel 3-1 (3-1 ML) Currently 9-1
Show pool: $5,761 603 455 2427 1544 731
Unless there's huge dump on #3 at the last minute, not worth an "ALL" bet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 16:42:55 GMT -5
Final Odds and Pools.
Odds 8-1 46-1 3-5 3-1 7-2
Win Pool $88,583 7645 1578 45296 17878 16185 Place Pool $23,549 3593 824 9016 5759 4355 Show Pool $29,783 2605 850 19970 3819 2538
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Post by godfather on Feb 13, 2014 17:03:41 GMT -5
Not surprised Ebby got beat. I am surprised about the manner in which she got beat. I figured if she ever got the lead no horse in that field could pass her. Oh well, after 15-20 more workouts perhaps Ebby will give it another try. Unfortunately it will be hard to find a field as weak as she faced today.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 17:26:07 GMT -5
GF, it was truly a poor field - only one horse in the field had won a straight allowance race in the past 2 years or so. The 1 horse actually ran (and won) a $4000 starter allowance last summer. Being a native New Yorker, it was nice to see a NYB win the race. I think "insiders" knew she wasn't ready, if she ever will be. There was no bridge jumping in the show pool, and she wound up drifting up to 3-5 by post time. Here's the chart: Attachments:SA021314USA2.pdf (17.45 KB)
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Post by godfather on Feb 13, 2014 17:29:34 GMT -5
George,
When Ebby was in NY you and I both felt she would end up at Monticello. I guess now she is destined for Cal Expo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 17:39:55 GMT -5
George, When Ebby was in NY you and I both felt she would end up at Monticello. I guess now she is destined for Cal Expo. Yep. Now the only question remaining is.....will she be a trotter or a pacer? Maybe the horse that the marshall rides?
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Post by hesnotmypres on Feb 13, 2014 18:56:35 GMT -5
Why is it ok to "bash" this Horse?? Calling her a Trotter or Pacer?? That IS bashing
Pres
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Post by godfather on Feb 13, 2014 18:57:29 GMT -5
George,
I'm pretty sure the Cal Expo track is also used for thoroughbreds on the Northern Cali Fair Circuit. Perhaps Ebby could be stabled there and run as a trotter and on the Fair Circuit. Now that would really make her famous!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 19:21:36 GMT -5
sorry pres, but bashing horses is a little different then bashing people or tracks imo also. bashing horses is what handicapping is all about really. finding horses you don't like for whatever reason and betting against them. this horse has no business being that price or even getting the write ups or attention she gets. like I said ast week, she is 2 for 4 and is a useful filly who will probably win a couple more races during her short career in allowance spots or maybe even restricted stakes of some sort. but if she wasn't who she is we would not even be talking about her or pying any attention to her. she doesn't deserve the hype or the criticism. she is nobody.
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Post by hesnotmypres on Feb 13, 2014 19:25:43 GMT -5
Wiz:
I hear you but this Horse is being bashed by people ONLY because of her connection to Z That's my point, if she had won people would have pretended the race never happened.
Pres
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Post by byanose13 on Feb 13, 2014 19:32:20 GMT -5
Sometimes expectations are much greater than the talent and I think that is the case here. I think that it might be time to face the facts and just say she isn't destined to be a really good race horse and let her find her niche(claiming or lower alw races) where ever that may be. Maybe she will have a greater impact when she goes to the breeding shed, one never knows what lies ahead for her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 19:33:40 GMT -5
agreed nose. shes worth way more in the barn then on the track.
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Post by godfather on Feb 13, 2014 19:41:06 GMT -5
Pres,
With all due respect the only reason Ebby has received all the publicity is her connection to Zenyatta. The fans of Ebby created a double edged sword with all the hype on multiple forums. If Ebby was winning races she would receive little credit because she was EXPECTED to win. She is losing races so the hype has been proven to be a myth. I remember a certain trainer giving his guarantee Big Brown would win the Belmont and we all know what happened regarding Big Brown in the Belmont. Last year someone was bragging that he would be cashing a boat load of futures wagers on Flashback in the KY Derby. We all know Flashback never made it to the Derby and was eventually called Flushbucks when all those futures tickets clogged up a sewer system in California. When people make bold predictions such as the Ebby fans have done for over a year it can come back to bite them on the rear end. Just my opinion.
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Post by Evelyn on Feb 13, 2014 20:19:22 GMT -5
Pres - I answered that same question in response to your PM. Apparently, Wiz. GF and nose agree with me! Thanks guys!
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Post by Jon on Feb 13, 2014 21:13:37 GMT -5
2 Things:
1, Pres' last post is his Personal Opinion. No facts have been presented to support this hearsay/rumor.
2. TAKE THE PERSONAL BS PRIVATE. LAST WARNING
OK - 3 Things LOL
3. Pres deleted his post to which I was responding so #1 is meaningless. #2 Stands
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Post by Jon on Feb 13, 2014 21:52:59 GMT -5
(and "Flushbucks" is priceless LMAO)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 22:00:57 GMT -5
(and "Flushbucks" is priceless LMAO)
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Post by Jon on Feb 13, 2014 22:13:53 GMT -5
Am headed to the doghouse - Ev really likes him.
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