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Post by byanose13 on Nov 30, 2013 16:20:56 GMT -5
I believe you even said Game On Dude was a pretender outside of CA and even then he tanked in the Classic 2 years in a row so don't list him as someone that WTC beat because in your immortal words he is a bum. He got the "Dirty Face" in two straight races where he could have shut everybody up.
Palace Malice is the only horse there that has proven he even belongs in the conversation the rest are what they are horses that showed up a couple of times and ran a couple of good races.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 16:30:21 GMT -5
I believe you even said Game On Dude was a pretender outside of CA and even then he tanked in the Classic 2 years in a row so don't list him as someone that WTC beat because in your immortal words he is a bum. He got the "Dirty Face" in two straight races where he could have shut everybody up. Palace Malice is the only horse there that has proven he even belongs in the conversation the rest are what they are horses that showed up a couple of times and ran a couple of good races. MAN YOU ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE, AS I SAID BEFORE WD IS HOTY BASED ON WHAT ? HE DIDN'T WIN ANY OF THE AMERICAN TOP TURF RACES, HE FACED SUB PAR HORSES, RAN IN G2 RACES AND BEAT A C STRING EURO HORSE. THAT'S THE BLUE PRINT FOR HOTY ? I PUT UP WHAT WTC DID. THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 16:31:13 GMT -5
AND FOR THE RECORD DONT USE MY LINE
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Post by byanose13 on Nov 30, 2013 16:47:51 GMT -5
You were putting up WTC's record as being superior to Wise Dan's and that just doesn't jive with what you keep saying.
You have to decide whether it is how you perform or who you run against.
Wise Dan showed up FOR EVERY race he ran in while WTC did not, I will say as of right now he is the best horse running at this point.
by the way DIRTY FACE, DIRTY FACE, DIRTY FACE ,DIRTY FACE,DIRTY FACE
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 17:19:06 GMT -5
You were putting up WTC's record as being superior to Wise Dan's and that just doesn't jive with what you keep saying. You have to decide whether it is how you perform or who you run against. Wise Dan showed up FOR EVERY race he ran in while WTC did not, I will say as of right now he is the best horse running at this point. by the way DIRTY FACE, DIRTY FACE, DIRTY FACE ,DIRTY FACE,DIRTY FACE HE IS A TURF HORSE IN AMERICA. IT DOESNT TAKE MUCH TO SHOW UP. LOOK AT WHAT THOSE C STRINGERS DID AT THE BC AGAINST THE BEST AMERICAN TURF HORSES |
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Post by Jon on Nov 30, 2013 18:53:26 GMT -5
WTC swamps PM for 3 yr old honors. Will the HOY finalists be WTC, Dan and Dude?
Palace Malice?
2013 Statistics:
•Starts: 10
•Firsts: 2
•Seconds: 3
•Thirds: 1
•Earnings: $1,419,135
•Earnings Per Start: $141,914
WTC
2013 Statistics:
•Starts: 11
•Firsts: 5
•Seconds: 2
•Thirds: 0
•Earnings: $2,960,977
•Earnings Per Start: $269,180
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 18:59:33 GMT -5
and javas snore?
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Post by Jon on Nov 30, 2013 19:16:59 GMT -5
Wiz - Depends if he's in next week's Claiming Crown!
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Post by Evelyn on Dec 1, 2013 13:49:12 GMT -5
Lukas optimistic about a 2014 campaign for Will Take Charge
Brisnet
On the morning after his dramatic, last-gasp victory over favored Game On Dude in the 139th running of the Grade 1 Clark Handicap, Willis D. Horton's Will Take Charge was accepting peppermints from visitors and generally looking as if he was ready and eager for his next racing assignment.
Friday's narrow victory in which the three-year-old son of Unbridled's Song powered through the final sixteenth of a mile to edge Game On Dude and other accomplished older rivals by a head, ended any suspense in regard to his chances of earning the Eclipse Award for champion three-year-old of 2013.
The Clark was the finale of an old school racing campaign for the D. Wayne Lukas-trained star that started in January with a victory in the Smarty Jones Stakes at Oaklawn Park and ended with the Clark, his 11th race of the season.
In between, he won the Rebel at Oaklawn, muddled through the Kentucky Derby and Triple Crown series in which he had little impact, and launched a second-half surge on the year that includes victories in the Travers, Pennsylvania Derby and heartbreaking nose runner-up finish to Mucho Macho Man in the Breeders' Cup Classic at Santa Anita.
When he added the exclamation point on his late season rush by overtaking Horse of the Year contender Game On Dude in the Clark, conventional wisdom leaned toward an Eclipse Award for top three-year-old being a certainty for Will Take Charge. Bob Baffert, trainer of Game On Dude, even suggested after the Clark that Will Take Charge should be one of those under consideration for "Horse of the Year."
Although he had been the center of big event and very significant win just hours earlier, Lukas said his colt was very well on Saturday morning.
"He's very good," the veteran condition declared. "It's amazing how composed and everything he was in the winner's circle. He wasn't blowing much, or anything. I think he struggled with the racetrack a little bit. But maybe the others did, too."
The victory improved Will Take Charge's record for his sophomore season to 11-5-2-0 with earnings just shy of $3 million at $2,960,977.
Lukas smiled at the notion of how close his durable colt had come to a $3 million season, and suggested, in jest, that he might have one more race in him.
"Well, Turfway's about to open," he quipped. "There's always the Holiday Inaugural."
That $50,000 race at the Northern Kentucky track is clearly not on the agenda for Will Take Charge, but Lukas was more confident on Saturday that the improving chestnut would return to competition in 2014.
While Horton continues to negotiate on a deal for stallion duty for Will Take Charge when the colt ends his racing career, his Hall of Fame trainer is increasingly optimistic that fans will see the colt on the track again.
"We've got four farms that are very strong, interested players," Lukas explained. "What I think is gonna happen is either they'll go partners (with Horton) and run him next year, or they'll tie him up for the breeding shed and run him next year. I think Willis wants to run him next year. At first there was talk about an outright sale and take him to the breeding shed, but I don't think that is going to happen."
Taking that optimistic approach, Lukas said Will Take Charge will take it easy for a while and he would look for a race, probably in March, to launch a 2014 run for the colt. Until then, the glow of the sizzling stretch run that saw Will Take Charge collar Game On Dude in the last instant will be a moment to savor.
"It was a real good race for fans," Lukas stated. "With those two good horses and the way it came down, it was really good."
The Clark victory, which was the first stakes victory for Lukas at Churchill Downs since 2009, makes the year of the resurgence of the 78-year-old Lukas all the more impressive. In all of Lukas' stellar seasons in which he has topped the earnings list or trained one or more champions, he has never quite had a year like 2013.
"I think we did more with less than maybe most of the guys," Lukas said. "Todd (Pletcher) had a great year and (Charlie) LoPresti was strong. But when you consider what we started with in the barn and look at our year, we had some very good days. But we had a lot of gaps in there between the big races.
"We didn't have much in our barn to really say too much about. But I think to develop those three-or-four that we did -- (Preakness winner) Oxbow, Will Take Charge and (two-year-old Hopeful winner) Strong Mandate -- it's not a bad run."
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