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Post by Evelyn on Nov 22, 2013 10:09:03 GMT -5
Source please
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Post by mackdaddy on Nov 22, 2013 10:38:19 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 11:22:28 GMT -5
www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2013/11/arrests_at_penn_national_race.html4 arrested at Penn National Race Track; law enforcement hasn't said whyBy Donald Gilliland on November 22, 2013 at 10:58 AM, updated November 22, 2013 at 11:11 AM Penn National Race Track has confirmed that four arrests were made at the racing facility in East Hanover Township, Dauphin County, on Friday morning. In a statement, spokesman Fred Lipkin told PennLive, "We understand that four arrests have been made here today. "We are not privy to any details of those arrests, nor have we been contacted by law enforcement, so at this time we cannot provide any comment on the matter." Lipkin directed any further questions to law enforcement agencies. A state police spokesman referred questions regarding the arrest to the U.S. Attorney's office in Harrisburg, which declined comment. A spokeswoman for the FBI's Philadelphia office didn't immediately return a phone call seeking information. No indictments involving the arrests had been filed in U.S. Middle District Court as of Friday morning.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 11:45:12 GMT -5
I URGE PEOPLE TO NOT CAST JUDGMENT BEFORE ALL THE FACTS ARE ON THE TABLE
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Post by Jon on Nov 22, 2013 11:59:51 GMT -5
Thank you Mack and George. In the future, inflammatory posts regarding news, facts, quotes and the like that do not include a source will be archived until they do. It's just the way it's got to be to protect the forum's integrity.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 12:03:06 GMT -5
KK: I haven't voiced any opinions, someone I know works there and just told me what was happening. I believe EVERYONE is innocent until proven guilty. Pres THAT'S FINE AND WELL, BUT I THINK JUST REPORTING ON REPORTS CAN INTERPRET JUDGMENT BEING PASSED, YOU REPORT ON WELLS BEING TAKING AWAY IN CUFFS BUT YOU DONT KNOW WHY. I LIVE HERE IN THE KEYSTONE AND IT IS NOT OUT OF THE NORM FOR EVERYBODY TO BE TAKEN AWAY IN CUFFS REGARDLESS OF A CONNECTION TO THE SITUATION OR NOT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 12:38:46 GMT -5
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BUT YET YOU POST ON PEOPLE FACING INDICTMENT ? LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE ALREADY DECIDED JUDGMENT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 12:42:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 12:47:55 GMT -5
Paulick now has copies of the four indictments on his website. PAULICK GETS HIS STONES OFF ON STUFF LIKE THIS. STUFF LIKE THIS IS THE RESON WHY I DONT WATCH THE NEWS. THE NEWS FAVORS THE PROSECUTION 10 TIMES OUT OF 10, PAULICK PUTS UP INDICTMENTS BUT YET HE DOESNT WAIT FOR THE DEFENSE TO OFFER A REBUTTAL OF THE CHARGES.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 12:51:13 GMT -5
KK: The government can indite a ham sandwich, it's just a piece of paper. Where was any rush to judgement?Wow I am good, I beat Paulick on this story...... Pres TYPING FRAUD IN CAP LETTERS, POSTING ON THE STORY BEFORE THE DEFENSE CAN GET OUT A STATEMENT. TAKE YOUR PICK, I DON'T BLAME YOU BECAUSE THIS IS HOW THE NEWS/INTERNET WORKS, NEGATIVE STUFF GETS THE HEADLINES WHILE DEFENSE GETS THE BACK PAGE
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 12:53:41 GMT -5
KK: I hope for racings sake, these are false accusations. This just gives our sport another black eye. Pres FAULSE OR TRUE IT DOESNT STOP PEOPLE LIKE YOU FROM REPORTING ON IT. I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO A MAN OR WOMAN HAVING A DAY IN COURT ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 13:10:43 GMT -5
For the Record: I deleted my entire thread... Pres THERE WAS NO NEED TO DELETE IT, I JUST WANT PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF WHO ARE SO QUICK TO REPORT THE NEWS TO THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU REPORT IT, AS I SAID BEFORE THIS IS THE AMERICAN WAY, MOST PEOPLE DON'T WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR DAY IN COURT BEFORE THEY REACH A CONCLUSION, THEY SEE THE PERP WALK AND THEY AUTOMATICALLY REACH JUDGMENT. HE OR SHE IS HAULED AWAY IN CUFFS, MUST BE GUILTY RIGHT ? THE PEOPLE WHO FACE CHARGES IN THIS CASE MAY BE GUILTY WHO KNOWS ? BUT LETS WAIT FOR THEM TO HAVE THEIR DAY IN A COURT OF LAW BEFORE STORIES LIKE THIS IS PUT UP.
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Post by cait on Nov 22, 2013 13:53:25 GMT -5
probably shouldn't say anything but i'm having a busy fri at work and would like to see updates posted - if any - i have friends at penn nat too -
is anything that's going on going to affect tonight's card?
agree KK - the jury's still out -
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 14:10:04 GMT -5
cait,
I know that both Wells and Webb each have one horse entered tonight. Patricia Rogers has none, and hasn't had a starter since June.
Wells and Webb have other horses entered later this weekend at both Penn National and Mountaineer.
My guess is that tonight's entry may be scratched just because it's so soon after the arrests, but who knows about those tomorrow or Sunday. As KK points out, this is an indictment, not a conviction.
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Post by cait on Nov 22, 2013 14:28:16 GMT -5
thanks geo - quick search found this from local PA news - KK - doesn't webb have a decent sized stable?
3 horse trainers, 1 track employee arrested at Penn National Race Course, accused of doping horses, reporting inaccurate times Patriot Ledger By Donald Gilliland
The United States Attorney’s Office has charged three thoroughbred horse trainers and an employee of Penn National Racetrack in Grantville with fraud in connection with horse races at the track.
According to United States Attorney Peter J. Smith: David Wells, 39, of Grantville; Sam Webb, 63, of Jonestown; Patricia Anne Rogers, 43, of Hummelstown; and Danny Robertson, 63, of Hershey, were charged individually in four separate indictments.
Indictments were returned by a federal grand jury in Harrisburg on Wednesday and were unsealed following arrests of four individuals earlier today.
According to a press release from the U.S. Attorney's Office, Wells, Webb and Rogers, all horse trainers, were charged with allegedly devising a scheme to defraud those betting on thoroughbred races at Penn National Racetrack by attempting to administer and administering substances prohibited from being introduced into a horse within 24 hours of when the horse is scheduled to race.
The indictment also alleges that it is also a violation of state law to rig or attempt to rig a publicly exhibited contest such as a thoroughbred horse race.
Races at Penn National Racetrack are simulcast to approximately 116 sites across the United States and in other countries by wire and television to allow bettors to wager on the Penn National races without being in attendance at that track.
This is the second time in recent years that criminal charges have been filed in a horse doping case at Penn National.
According to the press release from the U.S. Attorney's Office:
The indictment says the trainers, like the owners, stand to profit financially from the purse offered for that race if the horse that is entered finishes in first, second or third place.
The indictment charging Webb alleges that Webb was detected by track security personnel on May 2, 2013, in a stall at the racetrack in possession of hypodermic syringes, needles and bottles of medications preparing to inject the horse “Papaleo” that Webb trained and which was scheduled to run in the sixth race that day. The horse was scratched from the race by racing officials.
The indictment charging Rogers alleges that Rogers was caught by track security personnel on August 21, 2013, at a stall at the racetrack in possession of hypodermic syringes and needles and bottles of medications and was observed injecting or attempting to inject a substance into a horse named “Strong Resolve” that she trained and that was scheduled to run in the second race that day.
The horse was scratched from the race by racing officials. Rogers was also charged with conspiring with a person known to the grand jury to attempt to commit wire fraud.
The indictment charging Wells alleges that Wells, both a trainer and horse owner, for several years up to and including February 2012, would routinely inject prohibited substances into horses he trained and other horses he both trained and owned, by use of hypodermic syringes and needles and otherwise. It is also alleged that Wells was routinely in possession of those prohibited items at the racetrack in violation of state rules, regulations and laws.
According to the indictment, Robertson was employed by the track as the clocker to provide racing officials and others with the official workout times for horses at Penn National, information relied upon by the betting public.
The indictment charging Robertson alleges that Robertson was an employee of the racetrack, working in the capacity of clocker whose duties included being present when horses would have their official workout. Robertson was to verify that the horse being timed was the actual horse the trainer represented it to be, to accurately record the distance each horse ran, and the time it ran that distance in and then to provide that information to racing officials for inclusion in the official public daily racing program.
Robertson also allegedly sent the workout time information interstate by wire via computer to Equibase, a Kentucky based company that provides information on a racehorse’s past performance and workout times to media outlets and publications as well as on its own website. The workout time information is allegedly relied upon by the betting public in deciding which horses to wager on in any given race.
The Robertson indictment alleges that Robertson, in exchange for cash given to him by trainers known and unknown to the grand jury, would provide false workout times to racing officials and to Equibase.
The times Robertson turned in allegedly, at times, included completely fabricated time for horses that did not workout at all at the track. The indictment alleges Robertson profited personally from the scheme, the betting public was defrauded and Robertson’s employer, Hollywood Casino and Racetrack, was denied of its right to Robertson’s honest services.
The investigation which is continuing is being conducted by the Harrisburg office of the FBI, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture’s Horse Racing Commission, the Pennsylvania State Police, the Dauphin County District Attorney’s Office, and the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Each defendant faces up to 20 years imprisonment and a $250,000.00 fine if convicted of wire fraud or attempted wire fraud.
Each defendant faces an additional 5 years imprisonment and a $250,000.00 fine if convicted of using and attempting to use the intestate wire mechanism provided by the simulcasting of races to defraud or for attempting to defraud the public through the rigging of a publicly exhibited contest in violation of state law.
Rogers faces an additional potential 20 year term of imprisonment and a $250,000.00 fine if convicted of the charge of conspiring to commit wire fraud.
Prosecution has been assigned to Assistant U.S. Attorney William A. Behe.
The case has been assigned to Senior U.S. District Court Judge William W. Caldwell.
Indictments and Criminal Informations are only allegations. All persons charged are presumed to be innocent unless and until found guilty in court.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 14:37:31 GMT -5
Interestingly Paulick has a photograph of the old grandstand that was demolished years ago: Attachments:
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Post by lt1 on Nov 22, 2013 15:36:02 GMT -5
KK chill out. An indictment only means there is reasonable grounds to hold a person for a trail. Any DA or the Federal Justice Dep't can indict a ham sandwich. There is no cross examination of any witness at these hearings. The panel only sees one side.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 17:20:39 GMT -5
DRF now has a report on the arrests. No word on the status of the upcoming entries of the trainers: www.drf.com/news/three-penn-national-trainers-arrested-and-charged-fedsThree Penn National trainers arrested and charged by fedsBy Matt Hegarty Three trainers at Penn National Race Course in Grantville, Penn., were arrested on Friday morning following the release of indictments charging the trainers with attempting to fix horse races by administering illegal raceday medications to horses, the U.S. Attorney for the Middle District of Pennsylvania announced on Friday. The trainers were Patricia Rogers, Sam Webb, and David Wells, who trained Rapid Redux, a popular gelding who was retired in 2012 after setting a modern U.S. record of 22 straight wins. Rapid Redux was given a Special Eclipse Award in 2011 for his winning streak. All three are facing a maximum sentence of 25 years in prison and a $250,000 fine if convicted, the U.S. attorney’s office said. Rogers could face an additional 20-year sentence on a separate charge. The arrests were the culmination of a four-year investigation by the FBI into practices on Penn National’s backstretch, according to officials. The trainers were handcuffed by FBI agents and taken from the grounds, witnesses to the arrests said. The charges were brought against Rogers, 43, and Webb, 63, after both were caught attempting to administer unidentified substances to horses on raceday earlier this year. Both horses were scratched and did not race. The indictment claims that Wells, 39, “for several years up to and including February, 2012, would routinely inject prohibited substances into horses he trained and other horses he both trained and owned.” The indictment of Wells did not identify any specific horses that were administered medications on raceday, nor did it identify the medications. Also indicted was a Penn National clocker, Dan Robertson, who was said to have taken payments from trainers and owners to record false workout times. The indictment said that some of the horses for which he recorded workouts had not worked at the track or that they did not work in the times that he recorded. Though not unprecedented, the leveling of federal charges for administering illegal medications to racehorses is rare. The U.S. attorney said in a release that the charges were based on the fact that Penn National accepts interstate wagers on its races, making the administrations a federal crime. Although calls to the Pennsylvania Horse Racing Commission were not returned on Friday, the agency issued four suspensions late in the afternoon to all of the individuals who were indicted. The suspensions began effective immediately and did not have an expiration date; language in the orders indicated that the suspensions would remain in place indefinitely “pending disposition of the criminal charges” against the individuals. Penn National suspended Robertson without pay on Friday, the track said in a statement. The statement also said that the track is “awaiting taking any possible action” against the three indicted trainers pending a determination by the Pennsylvania Racing Commission on the status of the trainers’ licenses. Penn National “takes this matter very seriously and we will cooperate fully with law enforcement for swift settlement of these issues,” said the track’s director of racing operations, Dan Silver. The indictment says that the charge against Webb is based on an incident on May 2 of this year when he was found by track security in a stall with a horse, Papaleo, while “in possession of hypodermic syringes, needles, and bottles of medications.” The horse was scheduled to run in the sixth race but was scratched. The indictment against Rogers similarly states that she was found in the stall of a horse entered to race on Aug. 2 named Strong Resolve. At the time, she “was observed injecting or attempting to inject a substance” into the horse, the U.S. attorney alleged. That horse was also scratched and did not run. The administration of medications to racehorses on raceday is restricted in most states to furosemide, the anti-bleeding medication, though some states also allow other therapeutic medications. Trainers in all states are prohibited from possessing hypodermic needles and most kinds of medications, though there are some exceptions. The indictments were released at a time when many racing states are attempting to crack down on illegal medication use due to criticisms of the sport’s drug-testing policies and enforcement. One day before the release of the indictments, a subcommittee of the U.S. House of Representatives conducted a hearing to discuss a bill that would give the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, a private non-profit company, the authority to devise the sport’s medication rules and conduct its drug testing. One of the bill’s sponsors is Joseph Pitts, a Republican from Pennsylvania.
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Post by Jon on Nov 22, 2013 23:59:54 GMT -5
Tonight: Wells; 5 entered - all scratched - Don't know if oredered scratched. Entry scratched R1 #1 SCR R2 #7 & #4 SCR R6 #9 SCR R8
Webb - 1 entered, scratched #1 SCR R7
Rogers - nothing entered, She's only had 3 entries all year. Does anyone know anything about jher? Never heard of her!
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Post by Jon on Nov 23, 2013 0:15:53 GMT -5
UPDATES: Penn National investigation Casino and racegoers speak up after arrests at Penn National Race Course Pa. horseman's association issues statement on Penn National Race Course arrests Penn National Race Course horse doping case defendants plead not guilty, are free pending trial To read more and see copies of the indictment cover sheets: www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2013/11/3_horse_trainers_and_1_track_e.html
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