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Post by racinggal on Oct 18, 2013 20:50:16 GMT -5
I agree with #1 probably because I was there. It was soon after 9/11 but we went. I was screaming for Tiznow! It was a very exciting race. Top 10 Breeders' Cups, 1994-2003 By Steve Haskin Bloodhorse Top Breeders' Cup moments 1994-2003 The second decade of the Breeders' Cup World Championships picked up right where the first left off and provided some of the most indelible moments, not only in Breeders' Cup history, but racing history. Some of the most exciting stretch duels of all time were witnessed by racing fans at Belmont Park, Churchill Downs, and Santa Anita Park, and it was a difficult decision selecting one. But in the end, we had to go with the one race that had the most profound effect on the Breeders' Cup and provided the most surreal moment in the history of the event, transcending the Sport of Kings. That was Tiznow's amazing and inspiring victory in the 2001 Classic, just weeks following 9/11. We will go into more detail of that historic race as part of our "30 Years in 30 Days" feature. 1) 2001 Classic, Tiznow — Who can forget Tom Durkin's "And Tiznow wins it for America" call. A classic call for a classic race, in which Tiznow became the first horse to win back-to-back Classics, defeating European superstars each time. 2) 1998 Mile, Da Hoss — Again, we refer to Tom Durkin's description of Da Hoss' gallant victory, in which he had only one small race at Colonial Downs in two years, as the "Greatest comeback since Lazarus." Appearing beaten, Da Hoss battled back in one of the gutsiest performances ever witnessed to defeat Hawksley Hill by a head. 3) 2000 Classic, Tiznow — This was one of the most gut-wrenching stretch duels in Classic history, as Tiznow, then a 3-year-old, dug in gamely and held off the challenge of Europe's iron horse Giant's Causeway . It became a battle of wills between two of the gamest horses in the world, both of whom were tenacious competitors and near impossible to defeat in a dogfight. 4) 1994 Juvenile Fillies, Flanders — Once again, we had an epic stretch duel, this time between two fillies trained by D. Wayne Lukas, one stabled in California and one in New York. The New York-based Flanders was undefeated and had demolished her foes by 21 lengths in the Frizette Stakes (gr. I). But facing Serena's Song this time, the two Lukas fillies went eyeball to eyeball from the backstretch to the wire, with Flanders giving one final surge to win by a head. She gave everything she had and pulled up after the finish with a career-ending fracture. 5) 1995 Classic, Cigar — This was the coronation of a superstar, as Cigar concluded his 4-year-old campaign unbeaten in 10 starts, winning eight grade I events. This one was Tom Durkin at his finest, as he bellowed in his now-famous call: "The unconquerable, invincible, unbeatable Cigar!" America had a true superhorse, who would go on to further glory the following year, winning the inaugural Dubai World Cup on his way to a 16-race consecutive winning streak. 6) 2003 Turf, High Chaparral and Johar — Was their ever more tension after a Breeders' Cup race than in the '03 Turf when the photo between the Irish-trained High Chaparral, winner of the previous year's BC Turf, and the Dick Mandella-trained Johar resulted in the first ever dead-heat in Breeders' Cup history. It turned out to be Mandella's third of a record four victories in one Breeders' Cup and gave Ballydoyle its second straight win in the Turf. 7) 2000 Sprint, Kona Gold — The old warrior Kona Gold was one of the most persistent Breeders' Cup performers ever, running in the Sprint an amazing five times. After finishing third in '98 and a heartbreaking second in '99, he finally got it done at Churchill Downs in 2000, winning by a hard-earned half-length and setting a new Breeders' Cup record of 1:07 3/5. After a poor effort at Belmont Park in 2001, he returned as a 7-year-old and despite a bad start, turned in a strong rally from 11th to finish fourth, beaten only 3 1/4 lengths. 8) 1996 Sprint, Lit de Justice — Not only did Lit de Justice turn in one of the great stretch runs ever in the BC Sprint, dashing between and inside horses from last place to win going away, he gave his trainer, Jenine Sahadi, the distinction of being the first female trainer to win a Breeders' Cup race. Sahadi would repeat the following year, winning the Sprint again with 16-1 shot Elmhurst. 9) 1995 Distaff, Inside Information — It was debatable who was the stronger part of the Shug McGaughey/Phipps family entry, but there was no debate after Inside Information's total domination over stablemate Heavenly Prize over a muddy Belmont track. The future Hall of Famer's 13 1/2-length romp in a stakes record 1:46 flat remains one of the most powerful performances in Breeders' Cup history 10) 2002 Distaff, Azeri — Azeri set the bar for Horse of the Year honors in 2002 by starting off the Breeders' Cup card with an authoritative victory in the Distaff, leading every step of the way and winning by five widening lengths for her seventh consecutive victory. When monster longshot Volponi upset the Classic later in the day, it clinched Horse of the Year honors for Azeri and her trainer, Laura De Seroux.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 21:06:55 GMT -5
I don't know what criteria was used, but two others come to mind:
Personal Ensign closing from nowhere on a sloppy track at Churchill Downs in 1988, considered by some as the most exciting finish of all BC races.
Royal Academy closing on the outside at Belmont Park with Lester Piggot riding - only 10 days after coming out of a 5-year retirement (and a year in jail for tax evasion) That was a tough win and a great story for Piggot.
Not sure how either of those fall behind Lit de Justice winning the sprint.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 21:20:00 GMT -5
George read the heading. 1994-2003
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 22:57:48 GMT -5
OOPs, sorry!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 9:01:47 GMT -5
TIZNOW BEING NUMBER ONE IS SOMETHING I'M 50/50 ON.
ON ONE HAND THAT ULTRA GAME SOB BEAT ME TWO YEARS IN A ROW (I HAD GC AND SAKHEE) SO IF I'M BEATEN, I WANT TO BE BEATEN BY THE BEST. ON THE OTHER HAND THE SITUATION SURROUNDING 9/11 PROVIDED AN ATMOSPHERE OF PATRIOTISM BUT LOOKING BACK ON IT 12 YEARS LATER AMERICAN RACING SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF ITS SELF. THE 2001 BREEDERS CUP WAS THE FIRST MAJOR SPORTING EVENT HELD IN THE US FOLLOWING 9/11 AND THE MAIN RACE, THE BC CLASSIC. WAS WON BY AN AMERICAN HORSE IN TIZNOW WHO ALSO BECAME THE FIRST AND ONLY HORSE TO WIN THE RACE IN BACK TO BACK YEARS, HE IS THE ALL TIME LEADING CA BRED MONEY EARNER BUT YET THERE IS NO STATUE TO COMMEMORATE THIS GALLANT CHAMPION AT ETHER BELMONT PARK IN NY OR AT ANY TRACK IN HIS HOME STATE OF CA, BUT ZENYATTA BECOMES THE FIRST FEMALE HORSE TO WIN THE BC CLASSIC AND SHE HAS A STATUE ERECTED ? MAYBE ITS ME AND MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING BUT WHAT DID ZENYATTA EVER DO TO INSTALL AMERICAN PRIDE ? AND WHY HAS IT TAKEN SO LONG FOR AMERICA TO CELEBRATE THE GALLANT TIZNOW ? AND THEY CALL ME UN AMERICAN,AMERICAN RACING SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF ITS SELF
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 12:57:43 GMT -5
what a shock. a post bashing American racing coming from you.
who says anyone is celebrating anything here? its one writers opinion, not an award being handed out at the eclipse awards.
what did tiznows wins in the bc have to do with 9/11? nothing. its not like Osama sent a pack of camels over here to compete in the classic and tiznow beat them. it was an American race, consisting of mostly American horses where he defeated a European who had nothing to do with bin laden or the Taliban or al Qaeda whatsoever.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 14:21:12 GMT -5
what a shock. a post bashing American racing coming from you. who says anyone is celebrating anything here? its one writers opinion, not an award being handed out at the eclipse awards. what did tiznows wins in the bc have to do with 9/11? nothing. its not like Osama sent a pack of camels over here to compete in the classic and tiznow beat them. it was an American race, consisting of mostly American horses where he defeated a European who had nothing to do with bin laden or the Taliban or al Qaeda whatsoever. WHO THE HELL IS TALKING ABOUT BIN LADEN ? WHAT DID TIZNOW HAVE TO DO WITH 9/11 ? HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE TERM MORALE BOOSTER ? ANYWAY MY POINT FLEW COMPLETELY OVER YOUR HEAD(THAT'S NOTHING NEW) GIVE THIS DAMN HORSE A STATUE
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Post by Jon on Oct 19, 2013 14:22:50 GMT -5
Zenyatta was CA's most popular racehorse. Her statue is for the general fans, not racing purists.
Tiznow only ran in NY twice - a 3rd in the Woodward the same year he won the BCC. No reason for NY to commenorate a CA horse. Yes - he should be honored at CA. But where? He only ran 1 race at Del Mar and didn't win. He ran 6 at SA - 3-1-0 and HWood's gone.
It was very strange to go the BC and then return to Manhattan, a city still in shock and partial lockdown. On the other hand, it was a great escape.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 14:51:24 GMT -5
Zenyatta was CA's most popular racehorse. Her statue is for the general fans, not racing purists. Tiznow only ran in NY twice - a 3rd in the Woodward the same year he won the BCC. No reason for NY to commenorate a CA horse. Yes - he should be honored at CA. But where? He only ran 1 race at Del Mar and didn't win. He ran 6 at SA - 3-1-0 and HWood's gone. It was very strange to go the BC and then return to Manhattan, a city still in shock and partial lockdown. On the other hand, it was a great escape. I SAY HIS STAUTE SHOULD BE AT BELMONT, CA SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO HONOR HIM, HE IS THEIR ALL TIME LEADING MONEY MAKER AND HE DID SOMETHING ZENYATTA FAILED TO DO
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Post by Jon on Oct 19, 2013 15:35:36 GMT -5
He won one race at Belmont. He was never stabled or training there. Can't agree. Perhaps the HOF should have it as he was a dual Classic winner.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 16:10:31 GMT -5
He won one race at Belmont. He was never stabled or training there. Can't agree. Perhaps the HOF should have it as he was a dual Classic winner. FU PEG HAS A GOLDEN STATUE IN JAPAN AND HE HAS NEVER RAN THERE, IM SURE BELMONT CAN SEE THE REASON WITH PUTTING A STATUE OF TIZNOW UP
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 18:07:19 GMT -5
Big difference KK. Fusaichi Pegasus was a national hero in Japan (where they still flock to race tracks by the tens of thousands), being a Japanese owned Kentucky Derby winner.
As pointed out, Tiznow made a one-time appearance at Belmont in his career.
As far as statues are concered (and this is getting way off topic), what amazes me is that there's a statue of Sea Hero in the paddock at Saratoga. I know he won the Travers, but he certainly wasn't the greatest horse to run at Saratoga, far from it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 18:42:45 GMT -5
WHAT IS THE FIRST THING PEOPLE THINK OF WHEN THEY HEAR 9/11? THE TWIN TOWERS AND OSAMA. YET YOU WANT TO PLAY DUMB ( I GUESS ITS NOT PLAYING) AND ACT AS IF THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER? ALL YOUR DOING HERE IS ONCE AGAIN FINDING SOMETHING TO BLOW OUT OF PROPORTION TO PUT BAD LIGHT ON AMERICAN RACING. THERE IS NO VIABLE REASON WHY THERE SHOULD BE A STATUE OF TIZNOW THERE, UNLESS THEY JUST FELT LIKE DOING IT. TO BASH THEM OR COMPLAIN ABOUT IT IS RIDICULOUS. YOU SAY 9/11 AND TIZNOW HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH OSAMA, THEN WHAT ARE YOU CELEBRATING OR MEMORIALIZING BY ERECTING A STATUE?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 2:30:27 GMT -5
WHAT IS THE FIRST THING PEOPLE THINK OF WHEN THEY HEAR 9/11? THE TWIN TOWERS AND OSAMA. YET YOU WANT TO PLAY DUMB ( I GUESS ITS NOT PLAYING) AND ACT AS IF THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER? ALL YOUR DOING HERE IS ONCE AGAIN FINDING SOMETHING TO BLOW OUT OF PROPORTION TO PUT BAD LIGHT ON AMERICAN RACING. THERE IS NO VIABLE REASON WHY THERE SHOULD BE A STATUE OF TIZNOW THERE, UNLESS THEY JUST FELT LIKE DOING IT. TO BASH THEM OR COMPLAIN ABOUT IT IS RIDICULOUS. YOU SAY 9/11 AND TIZNOW HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH OSAMA, THEN WHAT ARE YOU CELEBRATING OR MEMORIALIZING BY ERECTING A STATUE? I'M FAR FROM AN IDIOT, THE FACT THAT I'M EXCHANGING WITH YOU, , IS BAD FOR MY IMAGE. IF YOU CAN'T SEE THE SYMBOLISM BEHIND TIZNOW HAVING A STATUE AT BELMONT PARK IS ON YOU. NOW I SEE WHY THIS PLACE IS DEAD, AND IT WILL STAY DEAD AS LONG AS PEOPLE LIKE YOU PO PO PEOPLES IDEAS AND OPINIONS. IT WOULD BE ONE THING IF YOU OFFERED TOPICS TO THIS SITE BUT YOU DONT. YOU BRING NOTHING TO THIS PLACE.
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Post by Evelyn on Oct 20, 2013 12:21:13 GMT -5
This type of exchange really isn't necessary! KK - If we're "dead" because we don't have an abundance of gossip, personal bashing, false accusations, incorrect assumptions based on nothing, flat out lies, and so forth (the crap the "other site" thrives on), I'd say that's a good thing.
People disagree. That's what happens in forums. There's no need to attack personally because someone's opinion differs from yours. Racing people are so passionate!
I respect your opinion but I disagree with you also KK. NY has horses far more important to NY to honor than Tiznow.
Let's focus on racing shall we?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 12:31:29 GMT -5
They sure aren't going to remove Secretariat's statue to put one of Tiznow in the Paddock.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 13:09:05 GMT -5
T his type of exchange really isn't necessary! KK - If we're "dead" because we don't have an abundance of gossip, personal bashing, false accusations, incorrect assumptions based on nothing, flat out lies, and so forth (the crap the "other site" thrives on), I'd say that's a good thing. People disagree. That's what happens in forums. There's no need to attack personally because someone's opinion differs from yours. Racing people are so passionate! I respect your opinion but I disagree with you also KK. NY has horses far more important to NY to honor than Tiznow. Let's focus on racing shall we? SO YOU ONLY DEEMED THE EXCHANGE UNNECESSARY ONCE I REPLIED ? FORGET ABOUT THE PART WHERE I WAS CALLED AN IDIOT RIGHT ? IF THIS IS A PLACE WHERE EVERYBODY HAS TO THINK A LIKE LET ME KNOW BECAUSE I CERTAINLY HAVE MY OWN OPINION AND DON'T FOLLOW TALKING POINTS
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Post by Jon on Oct 20, 2013 13:38:43 GMT -5
KK - Evelyn replied when she signed on. You had already posted. We're not online 24/7 LOL
Let's chill. I edited the posts. Name calling is juvenile.
If you read her post you'd know people don't have to "think al;ike". We prefer counter-opinions that relate to the subject without getting personal and declining into name calling.
As a New Yorker, I aboslutly see no reason to spend $ on a Tiznow statue. He did nothing for NY racing. If someone donated one, I'm sure they'd find a place to put it (unless Andy put it up for sale because he wouldn't know who Tiznow is LOL)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 0:03:11 GMT -5
please kk. you go off on people as well. if you need to hear it to keep you from wetting your panties, then I apologize for calling it like I see it. ya know, you show up in here once or twice every other week, and its always to make a detrimental comment toward u.s racing. why do u you bother? do you think anyone wants to hear it? if that's all you want to do is bait people who are on here to discuss it and like it into an argument, why not just stay at the other site? yes we all know. its your "right" to post what you want, but why do you want to? you post something that no one agrees with and makes no sense, saying that tiznows victory over eoropean horses has something to do with patriotism after 9/11, and then when I mention the chief villain behind 9/11 you act as if im out of line for making the comparison. sorry but sounds pretty idiotic to me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 0:06:51 GMT -5
and I post topics all the time. if your not here to see them or able to read them, that's not my problem. in fact, I probably post more then anyone on here.
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