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Post by Evelyn on Aug 10, 2013 22:09:46 GMT -5
The Travers Celebration Returns to Celebrate Mid-Summer Derby By Eric Wing; Mark Bardack NYRA Press Release Retired jockey Ramon Dominguez to serve as honorary guest The 13th annual Travers Celebration will return this summer to support the Backstretch Employee Service Team (B.E.S.T.), the Permanently Disabled Jockeys Fund and the Times Union Hope Fund on Thursday, August 22 from 7:30 to 11 p.m. at Saratoga Race Course. The official party of the $1 million Travers will take place just two days before the 144th edition of the Mid-Summer Derby. This year's event will honor three-time Eclipse Award Outstanding Jockey winner Ramon Dominguez, who announced his retirement in June following injuries sustained in an accident at Aqueduct Racetrack in January 2013. During his career, Dominguez won 4,985 races and earned nearly $200 million in purses. Sponsored by The New York Racing Association, Inc., Metropolitan Aviation, Ketel One Vodka, Northeastern Fine Jewelry, Ball Watch, the Mercedes-Benz Center at Keeler Motor Car, NewsCenter 10, Fly 92.3, and the Times Union,the elaborate cocktail reception will feature exquisite food stations and beverage offerings, and dancing to live music from the New York Players. The evening will also include a silent auction. The 2013 Travers Celebration is co-chaired by Mr. George R. Hearst III, Publisher and CEO of the Times Union newspaper; and Mrs. Sharon Dominguez, wife of honorary guest Ramon Dominguez. Tickets are available for $175 per person and $125 for young adults (under 30). Tables may be reserved for $2500 per table of 10, which includes complimentary wine. Tickets are available for purchase online at here or by phone at (518) 383-6183. Credit cards accepted are Visa, Mastercard and Discover. The Travers Celebration has raised more than $1 million for non-profit organizations in the thoroughbred industry and throughout the greater Capital Region since its inception over a decade ago. Founded in 1989, the Backstretch Employee Service Team is a nonprofit organization which provides free health and social services to the backstretch communities at Aqueduct Racetrack, Belmont Park and Saratoga Race Course. The Permanently Disabled Jockeys Fund (PDJF) is a 501(c)(3) public charity that provides financial assistance to some 60 former jockeys who have suffered catastrophic on-track injuries. Since its founding in 2006, the fund has disbursed over $5 million to permanently disabled jockeys, most of whom have sustained paralysis or brain injuries. To continue its mission the PDJF relies on donations and support from the horse racing industry. The Times Union Hope Fund, a component fund of The Community Foundation for the Greater Capital Region, raises money and awards grants to after school and summer programs serving at risk children in Albany, Schenectady, Rensselaer and Saratoga counties.
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Post by Evelyn on Aug 10, 2013 22:42:07 GMT -5
Is anyone going to the Travers?
(I have to say this - this year's logo is downright ugly. Is Cuomo's NYRA economizing? LOL)
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Post by mrdelmarwasmybitch on Aug 11, 2013 3:39:52 GMT -5
id rather go to a fema/ scientology meeting at the local abortion clinic then go to Saratoga after all the hater ade that ive read on this site from the east coasters against del mar for no reason. I have always been open minded and unbiased between the two. I don't really like betting either one but they are both great facilities and the top of the ladder in the racing game. but after being put on the defensive every day having to listen to the biased opinions on here it has just made me sick and want to hate on Saratoga just out of sheer disgust. so if getting someone to hate a certain track was the goal of all the del mar bashing, then you have all done it. I officially hate Saratoga now. job well done people. I will now tell everyone I know to avoid the place like the plague.
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Post by mackdaddy on Aug 11, 2013 3:49:34 GMT -5
Wiz, what track do you bet?
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Post by mrdelmarwasmybitch on Aug 11, 2013 3:51:19 GMT -5
im like old people F*ing................. im all over the place right now!!
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Post by mrdelmarwasmybitch on Aug 11, 2013 3:54:24 GMT -5
truthfully since I quit on los al again I have only been playing on the weekends on the big race days at different tracks. I played Saratoga today and last weekend. mountaineer last week. Belmont and Churchill before that. I don't bet synthetic tracks. that is the only reason im not playing del mar.
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Post by Evelyn on Aug 11, 2013 15:31:14 GMT -5
wiz - IMO - You're exaggerating! Personally, I would love to see CA racing rebound. The tracks are at a disadvantage not having slots money, CA is also too expensive for most small outfits. Then there's the corrupt CHRB which goes after Carla but ignores the problems from O'Neill, Biancone, and Baffert. - Because without those stables, CA would have trouble filling races.
Both tracks are nice venues for different reasons. It's true though that Saratoga has more better horses and better, bigger races. That's not a slam - I just think it's true. Saratoga is accessible to far more out of state tracks than Del Mar. That's one reason CA started the out of state bonus program which has been moderately successful. It's also true that Del Mar's tracks are in terrible condition. Then there's that awful synth vs dirt. I prefer dirt as many do so I lean towards Saratoga for racing quality.
You always defend your opinions. I'm defending opinions that differ with yours. No one calls your opinions "hateful" because they understand they are YOUR opinions. You should do the same imho
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Post by mrdelmarwasmybitch on Aug 11, 2013 15:52:39 GMT -5
there is corruption everywhere, not just in ca.i agree both tracks are nice venues and that Saratoga has more money for their high end stakes due to to slots. theres not much del mar can do about that that they haven't already done. but as far as out of state horses shipping in, del mar has had a pretty good meet as far as field sizes go. just look at all the carryovers they have had so far. big contentious fields are what bring those about. as far as the track goes, it is synthetic. it sucks. but so do many others. my point is I am defending del mar and not even playing it because I want to see it do well. you say the same thing, but how many new threads are there on here on a daily basis bashing it? plenty. how many bashing Saratoga? none that I see. as I have said before, if everyone on here doesn't like it, don't bet it. just like I rarely bet Saratoga. actually I have played more at Saratoga this year then the last 5 years combined, bhut I still don't like playing the place as a rule. but that doesn't mean I have to bash it. and if you think that that doesn't happen on here, you are looking through rose colored glasses.
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Post by Evelyn on Aug 11, 2013 17:30:22 GMT -5
I think the problem here is how one defines bashing vs opinion.
Am I "bashing" when I post the logo is crappy? LOL IMHO, it really is ugly.......and crappy! I also think Del Mar needs some updating with their time worn graphics!
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Post by mrdelmarwasmybitch on Aug 11, 2013 17:42:47 GMT -5
no I don't consider that bashing. but when others take potshots or backhanded sarcastic comments like, " what no tv coverage for del mar yesterday"?, it is obvious. why would there have been? its not like Saratoga is on every day either.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 17:44:45 GMT -5
id rather go to a fema/ scientology meeting at the local abortion clinic then go to Saratoga after all the hater ade that ive read on this site from the east coasters against del mar for no reason. I have always been open minded and unbiased between the two. I don't really like betting either one but they are both great facilities and the top of the ladder in the racing game. but after being put on the defensive every day having to listen to the biased opinions on here it has just made me sick and want to hate on Saratoga just out of sheer disgust. so if getting someone to hate a certain track was the goal of all the del mar bashing, then you have all done it. I officially hate Saratoga now. job well done people. I will now tell everyone I know to avoid the place like the plague. Now, turn that around and do it for 30 years and perhaps you'll understand why some are "Del Mar haters" (which isn't true, but........) My point being, that for decades the ONLY summer meet in the universe in the eyes of "some" was Del Mar, and all the other tracks operating at the same time of the year were country bumpkin bull rings (Saratoga included) I heard Mack say several times yesterday, although not in reference to the Del Mar / Saratoga topic, "what goes around comes around"!
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Post by bloodstock64 on Aug 11, 2013 17:46:53 GMT -5
V - Verrazano.
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Post by Evelyn on Aug 11, 2013 17:54:42 GMT -5
George - I don't agree. Certainly that hasn't been the case on this forum. Living in the East, I have always heard Saratoga is the Best! I know there has always been an East/West rivalry but it was about horses, not tracks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 18:02:11 GMT -5
Of course it wasn't on this site, this hasn't been around for even a full Del Mar or Saratoga meeting yet. But I've been hearing it from my "other coast" friends almost from the time that Robert Frankel pulled up stakes and moved away.
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Post by mrdelmarwasmybitch on Aug 11, 2013 18:03:12 GMT -5
yes ev. I don't know who George has been listening to but I have been attending races for 35 of my 41 years and never has Saratoga been referred to as a country bumpkin bullring. some like Delmar and some like Saratoga, but they have always been viewed by most as pretty much equals or even Saratoga being more respected. but my point is even the ones who like del mar have never been so harsh on Saratoga as the ones who like Saratoga are on del mar. it makes the Saratoga fans look like little childish kindergarteners throwing out insults just to get attention.
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Post by mrdelmarwasmybitch on Aug 11, 2013 18:07:18 GMT -5
George wouldn't it make sense that in those years you are talking about, a lot of which were before simulcasting, people would look upon their own home track as better then one they have probably never attended or at the least don't attend very often? but there is a difference between thinking your track is the best and running another into the ground just because. I still think del mar is better then Saratoga, but im not on here bashing Saratoga. ive never been there. and don't really have an urge to go. but I know they have good racing and people like it. that's enough for me. why not just bet it and ignore the tracks you don't like unless they are doing something to harm you or your track?
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Post by cait on Aug 11, 2013 20:57:59 GMT -5
the delmar/spa mud slinging started oin tvg - because tvg was so incredibly west coast biased, it left a lot of "bad taste" for easterners - additionally, the supposed niece of delmar's ceo was on tvg bashing every track other than delmar, especially eastern tracks - most of that crap was the same as what tvg became - personally based, not factually based
unfortunately for delmar, it will never have the spa's history - currently, spa has lots of maiden races but they supposedly higher quality - delmar doesn't always have full cards and many races are low level claiming ones - the best track for actual racing in CA imo has always been SA, never delmar
i'm turned off since delmar switched to probably the worst synthetic track in north america - far too many injuries - which for cheaper horses are often a death sentence - and the turf course is also now apparently in dreadful shape
so yeah wiz - it's a personal choice - i don't bet or watch delmar (for one thing it's on tvg with the completey unwatchable shrupp yelling constantly lol) for me there's a much better talent pool - trainers, jocks and horses - at the spa - and much better wagering opportunities
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Post by cait on Aug 11, 2013 20:58:52 GMT -5
uyes ev - the logo is an embarassment! another fine product of andy pandy's nyra lol
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Post by mrdelmarwasmybitch on Aug 11, 2013 22:07:34 GMT -5
and I usually don't bet Saratoga. isn't that enough? and that whole argument that tvg was west coast biased is bull. they were zenyatta biased. there is a difference. they devgote just as much time to the east coast coverage in the morning and afternoon as they do the west. and when santa anita was running up until this year, they devoted none. yes at night they are based out of los al. but that is because there is nothing else of any substance running and they try to devote some time to quarters and harness for those interested. does emerald or mountaineer or will rogers downs have saratogas history? of course not, but I don't see anyone going after them. I agree santa anita is the most historic and also favorite of mine when it comes to ca. tracks, but the fact is del mar is more successful right now. they are getting fuller fields, higher purses on a daily basis, and better attendance. maybe not quite reaching saratogas level but still much better then most. why not talk crap on the tracks that are less successful then del mar. if Saratoga is number one, why not go after number 37 instead of number 2 or 3 or whatever del mar might be?
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Post by cait on Aug 11, 2013 22:19:48 GMT -5
hey grumpy - tvg was exceptionally west coast biased - until they lost some exclusives - now they show w/e they can get - including cal expo! and the zvg community was totally west coast biased! maybe you and johnny were gone by them - once zvg customer reps took over as mods, zvg was a west coast haven - because of their delmar exclusive, they had to be biased towards the supposed niece and her pals lol
so we agree - we can all bet w/e we choose!
the other tracks aren't part of this thread - i'm just saying the controversy comes from zvg - i disagree totally with you about delmar's success - it's a summer seaside resort track - the racing is B level - and i still don't see "bashing" - as ev said, it's just opinions - i don't see ypou being accused of bashing the spa - but your comments are similar top what's being said about delmar - so why is one bashing and the other isn't?
now settle down and chew on some carrots!
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